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Hypothetically, if the Raptors are looking at being a first round fodder, they should assess what value Brandon Ingram can fetch.

This assumes he’s healthy, and playing like his regular stats (eg 23/5/5). He makes $38M, then $40M, then a PO.


Where does he fit well? What would a hypothetical trade market be? Make your offers below

Didn't the Raptors give up a 2026 1st in the deal for Ingram and then immediately extended him? I can't see any trade that makes sense.

MessiahUjiri wrote:Hypothetically, if the Raptors are looking at being a first round fodder, they should assess what value Brandon Ingram can fetch.

This assumes he’s healthy, and playing like his regular stats (eg 23/5/5). He makes $38M, then $40M, then a PO.


Where does he fit well? What would a hypothetical trade market be? Make your offers below

Why would anyone assume he’s healthy?

He’s a good player, not a great one. And he couldn’t get that contract in today’s market without an All Star season. Not sure if he has that in him. I don’t think you’ll get the kind of offers you were hoping for.

-Solid player
-Injury prone
-Albatross contract

You probably have to pay to dump him. Maybe a desperate team like Chicago or Sacramento would give you expirings for him, but then again, another desperate team in New Orleans, passed on resigning him, so I have a hard time seeing any team wanting him without an exceptional year.

I think there will be some offers but they will not be a ton. E.g. Lavine for Ingram with some small incentive either way.

He's a little empty calories. His ideal role is on a play-in team who is trying to sell false hope to their fans. I'd say he's in the perfect spot right now, unless Chicago is interested.

LarsV8 wrote:-Solid player
-Injury prone
-Albatross contract

You probably have to pay to dump him. Maybe a desperate team like Chicago or Sacramento would give you expirings for him, but then again, another desperate team in New Orleans, passed on resigning him, so I have a hard time seeing any team wanting him without an exceptional year.

For a sec I thought this was an Anthony Davis thread

Let him play. Hope he's healthy. You should be able to get some expirings and a protected 1st before the deadline.

I think Barrett should move to sixth man anyway so I wouldn't feel any urgency to move him, unless the goal is to tank this year, in which case, I'd at least see what the market for Barnes is.

MessiahUjiri wrote:Hypothetically, if the Raptors are looking at being a first round fodder, they should assess what value Brandon Ingram can fetch.

This assumes he’s healthy, and playing like his regular stats (eg 23/5/5). He makes $38M, then $40M, then a PO.


Where does he fit well? What would a hypothetical trade market be? Make your offers below

Assuming he's healthy is a huge step, but if he is, and he's playing like his regular stats, and the Raptors are looking at being first round fodder, then I think the image that Ingram is "empty calories" or a limited impact player just continues to grow. I think he basically enters "Demar DeRozan value" territory, at best?

Scoot McGroot wrote:

MessiahUjiri wrote:Hypothetically, if the Raptors are looking at being a first round fodder, they should assess what value Brandon Ingram can fetch.

This assumes he’s healthy, and playing like his regular stats (eg 23/5/5). He makes $38M, then $40M, then a PO.


Where does he fit well? What would a hypothetical trade market be? Make your offers below

Assuming he's healthy is a huge step, but if he is, and he's playing like his regular stats, and the Raptors are looking at being first round fodder, then I think the image that Ingram is "empty calories" or a limited impact player just continues to grow. I think he basically enters "Demar DeRozan value" territory, at best?

Derozan label is due to his repeated playoff failures. Ingram has had one great playoff series and one terrible one while injured/returning too soon. Dont see how Ingrams play next season would give him a DeRozan label.

Godaddycurse wrote:

Scoot McGroot wrote:

MessiahUjiri wrote:Hypothetically, if the Raptors are looking at being a first round fodder, they should assess what value Brandon Ingram can fetch.

This assumes he’s healthy, and playing like his regular stats (eg 23/5/5). He makes $38M, then $40M, then a PO.


Where does he fit well? What would a hypothetical trade market be? Make your offers below

Assuming he's healthy is a huge step, but if he is, and he's playing like his regular stats, and the Raptors are looking at being first round fodder, then I think the image that Ingram is "empty calories" or a limited impact player just continues to grow. I think he basically enters "Demar DeRozan value" territory, at best?

Derozan label is due to his repeated playoff failures. Ingram has had one great playoff series and one terrible one while injured/returning too soon. Dont see how Ingrams play next season would give him a DeRozan label.

In the OP, it's specifically supposed that he's not leading Toronto to playoff success? So it makes sense to see that comparison, right?


But more specifically on trade value, we just saw Ingram not go for much value to Toronto. In this case, he'd be entering a 1+1 type contract situation, so very similar to what he was just traded under, but maybe worse as he'd have a player option? If we're supposing, as the OP asked, that Ingram didn't produce enough to impact Toronto's winning greatly, he surely wouldn't have gained value?

Scoot McGroot wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Assuming he's healthy is a huge step, but if he is, and he's playing like his regular stats, and the Raptors are looking at being first round fodder, then I think the image that Ingram is "empty calories" or a limited impact player just continues to grow. I think he basically enters "Demar DeRozan value" territory, at best?

Derozan label is due to his repeated playoff failures. Ingram has had one great playoff series and one terrible one while injured/returning too soon. Dont see how Ingrams play next season would give him a DeRozan label.

In the OP, it's specifically supposed that he's not leading Toronto to playoff success? So it makes sense to see that comparison, right?


But more specifically on trade value, we just saw Ingram not go for much value to Toronto. In this case, he'd be entering a 1+1 type contract situation, so very similar to what he was just traded under, but maybe worse as he'd have a player option? If we're supposing, as the OP asked, that Ingram didn't produce enough to impact Toronto's winning greatly, he surely wouldn't have gained value?

I could be wrong but i thought OP is implying he is playing well in 25-26 but we are in 7th to 10th in standings and is asking for trade inquiry mid season. So it would be for 2 playoff runs, not 1. If Ingram is playing that well and we are in 7th or worse it's probably due to serious injuries elsewhere on the roster.

So, the raptors outbid everyone to trade for him and then clearly outbid the market on how much to pay him. And then you want to flip him? Maybe someone takes him for junk, but I wouldn't expect anything positive coming back.

Billl wrote:So, the raptors outbid everyone to trade for him and then clearly outbid the market on how much to pay him. And then you want to flip him? Maybe someone takes him for junk, but I wouldn't expect anything positive coming back.

If Ingram is healthy and playing at an allstar level as OP implies then he would return positive value. Gigantic if though

Godaddycurse wrote:

Billl wrote:So, the raptors outbid everyone to trade for him and then clearly outbid the market on how much to pay him. And then you want to flip him? Maybe someone takes him for junk, but I wouldn't expect anything positive coming back.

If Ingram is healthy and playing at an allstar level as OP implies then he would return positive value. Gigantic if though

No, he won't. A few months of a healthy ingram isn't going to convince anyone that he's going to be a reliable star level player over the course of his contract.

Billl wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:

Billl wrote:So, the raptors outbid everyone to trade for him and then clearly outbid the market on how much to pay him. And then you want to flip him? Maybe someone takes him for junk, but I wouldn't expect anything positive coming back.

If Ingram is healthy and playing at an allstar level as OP implies then he would return positive value. Gigantic if though

No, he won't. A few months of a healthy ingram isn't going to convince anyone that he's going to be a reliable star level player over the course of his contract.

Plenty of all stars who missed significant time returned positive value.

The term “all star” is getting used pretty loosely in this thread. Ingram made one ASG five years ago, and hasn’t sniffed one since

gswhoops wrote:The term “all star” is getting used pretty loosely in this thread. Ingram made one ASG five years ago, and hasn’t sniffed one since

23/5/5 in the weak east on a playoff team is probably an all star..

Godaddycurse wrote:

Scoot McGroot wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:
Derozan label is due to his repeated playoff failures. Ingram has had one great playoff series and one terrible one while injured/returning too soon. Dont see how Ingrams play next season would give him a DeRozan label.

In the OP, it's specifically supposed that he's not leading Toronto to playoff success? So it makes sense to see that comparison, right?


But more specifically on trade value, we just saw Ingram not go for much value to Toronto. In this case, he'd be entering a 1+1 type contract situation, so very similar to what he was just traded under, but maybe worse as he'd have a player option? If we're supposing, as the OP asked, that Ingram didn't produce enough to impact Toronto's winning greatly, he surely wouldn't have gained value?

I could be wrong but i thought OP is implying he is playing well in 25-26 but we are in 7th to 10th in standings and is asking for trade inquiry mid season. So it would be for 2 playoff runs, not 1. If Ingram is playing that well and we are in 7th or worse it's probably due to serious injuries elsewhere on the roster.

Maybe midseason? But that doesn't massively increase his value either. And if he's looking like he needs traded, then he's probably not playing well either, or else Toronto would be looking much better than just first round fodder? It's hard to project exactly when this would happen with all the assumptions in the OP?

But if Ingram is "needing" to be traded for some reason this season, and Toronto is willing to trade him, we can pretty safely assume his value hasn't appreciated?