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				Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 2:32 pm
				by bgrep14
				Cavs: Wade, Strus, and a 2nd
Cavs: Murray
Cavs get under 2nd apron
Portland: Murray, Williams, and Rupert
Portland: Strus and Wade
Portland picks up some rotation pieces and stay under the luxury tax
Nets: TPE
Nets: Connaughton, Rupert, and 2 2nds
Nets get some value for taking on money
Hornets: Connaughton and a 2nd
Hornets: Timelord 
Hornets get big man depth they need
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers
				Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 2:38 pm
				by Mavrelous
				I see no reason for the cavs to duck the Apron this year, in 2 years Hunter and Strus are off the books and Mitchell will opt out to look for 35% max, that's when you recalibrate...
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 2:47 pm
				by jbk1234
				I suspect the Cavs roster is pretty much locked for the season.  I know Wade can stay on the floor in the playoffs due to defense and rebounding, less sure about Murray.
But of all the teams who might want Strus, the Blazers are least likely (behind maybe the Suns). Cronin inexplicably traded for Jrue and signed Dame to the full MLE sight unseen. They've got Scoot and Sharpe, who needs to get paid soon, behind them.
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 2:57 pm
				by Godaddycurse
				hornets owe value in a connaughton for timelord swap imo
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 3:00 pm
				by Myth
				I don’t think Portland pays a 2nd to take on extra salary next year and thin the center position more.
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 3:21 pm
				by JRoy
				Pass for POR.
Pointless.
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:27 pm
				by HornetJail
				yes for Charlotte, will throw in a 2nd to whichever team needs it
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:57 pm
				by Rich4114
				HornetJail wrote:yes for Charlotte, will throw in a 2nd to whichever team needs it
Seconded
 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers
				Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:52 pm
				by bgrep14
				Mavrelous wrote:I see no reason for the cavs to duck the Apron this year, in 2 years Hunter and Strus are off the books and Mitchell will opt out to look for 35% max, that's when you recalibrate...
It'd be nice if they ducked the 2nd apron so they could aggregate salaries in a trade to improve the team. Doesn't mean they can't go back into the 2nd apron if they feel they have or want too.
 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:20 am
				by mcfly1204
				Pretty gross for Cleveland.  Moving rotation players for a chance to maybe improve the roster?  Strus, in particular, is a competitor, something they need more of, not less.
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 5:14 pm
				by GoBobs
				Rich4114 wrote:HornetJail wrote:yes for Charlotte, will throw in a 2nd to whichever team needs it
Seconded
 
Problem is we dont' have the roster spot unless we cut Plumlee or Dinwiddie. Both of those guys are better bets to contribute than RW3. 
Robert Williams the 3rd has averaged 33 games per season over the last 7 seasons. That isn't worth a roster spot. 
1 LaMelo
2 Brandon Miller
3 Miles Bridges
4 Kon K
5 Josh Green 
6 Salaun 
7 Sexton
8 Tre Mann
9 Grant Williams
10 Moussa Diabate 
11 Kalkbrenner (rookie)
12 Sion James (rookie)
13 Liam McNealy (rookie)
14 Dimwiddie 
15 Plumlee 
cut cut cut.....................................
Nick Smith Jr
Connaughton
 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 6:04 pm
				by HornetJail
				GoBobs wrote:Rich4114 wrote:HornetJail wrote:yes for Charlotte, will throw in a 2nd to whichever team needs it
Seconded
 
Problem is we dont' have the roster spot unless we cut Plumlee or Dinwiddie. Both of those guys are better bets to contribute than RW3. 
Robert Williams the 3rd has averaged 33 games per season over the last 7 seasons. That isn't worth a roster spot. 
1 LaMelo
2 Brandon Miller
3 Miles Bridges
4 Kon K
5 Josh Green 
6 Salaun 
7 Sexton
8 Tre Mann
9 Grant Williams
10 Moussa Diabate 
11 Kalkbrenner (rookie)
12 Sion James (rookie)
13 Liam McNealy (rookie)
14 Dimwiddie 
15 Plumlee 
cut cut cut.....................................
Nick Smith Jr
Connaughton
 
33 games of Williams >>>>>> 82 games of Plumlee
hell 0 games of Williams >>>> 82 games of Plumlee
 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2025 9:25 pm
				by Pattycakes
				Blazers aren’t “already in the championship mix” so adding vets for end of bench cheering makes no sense
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2025 7:22 am
				by Diop
				Charlotte are probably going to just cut Connaughton
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 7:23 am
				by bgrep14
				Cavs: Charlotte 2nd and TPE
Nets: Connaughton and Tyson
Charlotte: Timelord 
Portland: Strus
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:17 pm
				by Diop
				Diop wrote:Charlotte are probably going to just cut Connaughton
well i was dead wrong
 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:11 pm
				by jbk1234
				bgrep14 wrote:Cavs: Charlotte 2nd and TPE
Nets: Connaughton and Tyson
Charlotte: Timelord 
Portland: Strus
If Tyson develops enough by the deadline to make Strus expendable, I could see him getting moved (not to the Blazers who just extended Sharpe and are loaded at the wing). I don't see a scenario where we trade both of SFs given Hunter's injury history.
 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers
				Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:55 pm
				by toooskies
				Cutting salary to below the second apron would save the Cavs a ridiculous amount of money in luxury tax.  Something like $130m. There's reasons to cut salary if there's doubts. 
The Cavs decide at the deadline whether they've got a shot at the title or not.  No need to decide sooner.  
But if everybody's healthy then Strus and Wade are possibly the most expendable and it doesn't really matter what comes back.
			 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 6:43 pm
				by bgrep14
				jbk1234 wrote:bgrep14 wrote:Cavs: Charlotte 2nd and TPE
Nets: Connaughton and Tyson
Charlotte: Timelord 
Portland: Strus
If Tyson develops enough by the deadline to make Strus expendable, I could see him getting moved (not to the Blazers who just extended Sharpe and are loaded at the wing). I don't see a scenario where we trade both of SFs given Hunter's injury history.
 
Tyson is getting moved to the Nets in this trade to incentivize taking on a little bit of money. Wade is Hunters backup, Strus has never been a good SF option and more of a 2 guard which is why they acquired Hunter in the first place. If anything maybe Nets throw in a 2nd so Cavs get 2 2nds and TPE.
 
			
					
				Re: Cavs/Nets/Blazers/Hornets
				Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:44 pm
				by jbk1234
				bgrep14 wrote:jbk1234 wrote:bgrep14 wrote:Cavs: Charlotte 2nd and TPE
Nets: Connaughton and Tyson
Charlotte: Timelord 
Portland: Strus
If Tyson develops enough by the deadline to make Strus expendable, I could see him getting moved (not to the Blazers who just extended Sharpe and are loaded at the wing). I don't see a scenario where we trade both of SFs given Hunter's injury history.
 
Tyson is getting moved to the Nets in this trade to incentivize taking on a little bit of money. Wade is Hunters backup, Strus has never been a good SF option and more of a 2 guard which is why they acquired Hunter in the first place. If anything maybe Nets throw in a 2nd so Cavs get 2 2nds and TPE.
 
Who's the backup 4 if Wade is the full time backup 3? I don't think the Cavs are giving up Tyson. They've given him some of the most difficult  defensive assignments over the first 4 games. Having a cheaper option off the bench to fill that role over the next three seasons will be valuable. It doesn't matter as the Blazers aren't taking on Strus unless Sharpe is outgoing and his PPP makes that very unlikely. 
Honestly, Porter hasn't gotten enough run to know whether Strus is as expendable as some fans believe him to be. All of Ball, Nance, and Hunter have extensive injury histories.