MIL/OKC/BRK/CHI: Kuzma + 2032 1st for Mann/Ayo/protected 1st

[babyjax13]

MIL trades: Kyle Kuzma, 2032 MIL 1st
in: Terance Mann, Ayo Dosunmu, 2027 SAS 1st (1-16 protected, otherwise SAC + CHA 2nds)
Milwaukee uses a high variance asset to fix some of its depth issues. They can reevaluate a bit into the season and use the San Antonio first to help address another area of need. Ayo and Mann are both useful because they are multi-positional.

OKC trades: 2027 1st (lowest of OKC/DEN/LAC not conveyed to LAC, functionally, second lowest of these), 2027 SAS 1st (1-16 protected, otherwise SAC + CHA 2nds), 2029 OKC 1st
in: 2032 MIL 1st
OKC trades for a high-variance asset in the future.

BRK trades: Terance Mann
in: Kyle Kuzma, 2027 1st (lowest of OKC/DEN/LAC not conveyed to LAC, functionally, second lowest of these)
Brooklyn pays more on an annual basis but gets a first for doing so.

CHI trades: Ayo Dosunmu
in: 2029 OKC 1st
Chicago obviously likes Ayo, but they have a lot of guard depth and could use more assets. Here, they get an unprotected first, albeit from a team that is likely to be good, in return from Ayo.

[Godaddycurse]

milwaukee is better off waiting until kuzma is expiring next year and they can package 2026/2031/2033 1sts for a bigger difference maker. I dont think ayo/mann makes much difference for them this year. Maybe if it was White instead of Ayo?

[babyjax13]

milwaukee is better off waiting until kuzma is expiring next year and they can package 2026/2031/2033 1sts for a bigger difference maker. I dont think ayo/mann makes much difference for them this year. Maybe if it was White instead of Ayo?

I think Ayo is better than White for most teams - including Milwaukee. They already have some decent scoring guards but Ayo is a hyper-efficient 2-way player on a steal of a contract. Waiting makes good sense as long as Giannis is fine with waiting.

[Godaddycurse]

milwaukee is better off waiting until kuzma is expiring next year and they can package 2026/2031/2033 1sts for a bigger difference maker. I dont think ayo/mann makes much difference for them this year. Maybe if it was White instead of Ayo?

I think Ayo is better than White for most teams - including Milwaukee. They already have some decent scoring guards but Ayo is a hyper-efficient 2-way player on a steal of a contract. Waiting makes good sense as long as Giannis is fine with waiting.

they need a 2nd option scorer to take the load off Giannis imo. none of their scoring guards are starting caliber

[Clav]

babyjax, this proposition reads exactly like a Presti deal for OKC. +1

I like the deal too, good job!

[Mavrelous]

I don't have Ayo worth a 1st, a 2nd maybe? Basically Kuzma for Mann/Ayo should be a wash...

[Baddy Chuck]

I basically think any of the Bucks 2030's picks are break in case of emergency type assets that they should value very high and essentially only move for something truly inspiring, which a couple guys to add to a glut of guards we have (who might not even be rotational upgrades) and "dumping" Kuzma is not.

[Golabki]

milwaukee is better off waiting until kuzma is expiring next year and they can package 2026/2031/2033 1sts for a bigger difference maker. I dont think ayo/mann makes much difference for them this year. Maybe if it was White instead of Ayo?

I think Ayo is better than White for most teams - including Milwaukee. They already have some decent scoring guards but Ayo is a hyper-efficient 2-way player on a steal of a contract. Waiting makes good sense as long as Giannis is fine with waiting.

I think that's a wild overestimate of Ayo. On defense, he can guard the ball some against small guards, but I think he's not more than adequate in that role. And that's really all he does on that end. He doesn't do much at all as a help defender and he doesn't have the weight/physicality to switch or guard up to forwards or big guards. On offense, he can dribble and pass enough to be a secondary ball handler, and he's good at driving and finishing at the rim when some creates an advantage for him, but the bottom line is he's a SG who's barely adequate at shooting 3s. I'm not saying Ayo sucks, but I think he's quite overrated by some. I mean, Mann is basically a better version of Ayo and he is clearly viewed as a negative contract at 15-16M. The Bucks would MUCH rather have Coby White.

Yes it's better for the Bucks to wait... but it depends on the desperation level. If Kuz is as bad as I think he is, they will have to some something like this to keep Giannis in the building.

Big problem for me is that it's WAY too good for OKC. There are plenty of other teams with 2 crappy firsts that would love to do this kind of swap.

I think this would be more fair

Bucks get White and Mann
Bulls get Porter and 2032 bucks first
Nets get Kuzma and protected first from Bulls

Bucks - White/Trent/Mann with Anthony/Rollins/Prince off the bench might be enough at the 1-3 to keep them relevant.

Bulls - They want to keep White, but if early contract discussions look bad they might start listening, and that's just too good a pick to pass up.

Net - Pick up a first for a guy they don't care about and cut a year off a long term deal.

[ChettheJet]

The Bulls do it. Yes they love Ayo but as mentioned they have a guard glut. He's expiring so it's even on the money side. They can certainly find a suitable replacement FA guard next summer. The pick is like a long term CD, 4 years is a long time to wait for the payoff but OKC could win 3 titles by then or have a ton of 2028 injuries and be regrouping. That's the gamble bot teams take

[jbk1234]

I basically think any of the Bucks 2030's picks are break in case of emergency type assets that they should value very high and essentially only move for something truly inspiring, which a couple guys to add to a glut of guards we have (who might not even be rotational upgrades) and "dumping" Kuzma is not.

Agreed, those picks should only be used on a player that will make Giannis commit to extending. I'm not sure that's doable, but the hole is plenty deep already.

[AussieBuck]

Bucks need a SF defender, we don't need anymore guards.