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What's a good target for them? They can give up a protected pick and one of Agbaji, Dick or Walter. It'll likely be Agbaji since he's due for a new contract soon and they need someone under cost control.

The ideal big would be defensive, 7 feet or more, and able to provide rim protection. A stretch C would be nice but they likely can't get one without a massive price tag.

Any ideas?

They already resigned Poeltl, so I wonder who exactly they would want to target. You can go through and sort by age on any number of websites to find Centers in an age demographic you deem Young, but most teams with a Young and Promising Center aren't going to be in the market to trade them.

I've already engaged in this thought exercise too many times for my own good, and the end result is either that you're trading an arm and a leg for a valuable center, or you aren't getting a young, promising center for filler (agbaji/dick/walter) and a mediocre 1st.

I'll throw this one out there: If Hansen Yang looks like he has chops far beyond the offensive limitations Clingan has, it is possible Portland would show interest in moving on from Clingan for the right price.

I mean, you are probably looking for someone to play 18 minutes a game behind Poetl for the next 5 years till his contract is up?
Thats a tough one, would have to be Diabate(who is not 7 feet) but is still young and can play the backup role and might take over eventually, and wouldnt cost much.
You probably doesnt want an expensive one(Claxton is young and a good defender) but you would have so much money tied to 2 cents, makes little sense.

Cant see the raptors looking for a center in the next 3 seasons...

I don't think you're getting a young promising center (like a Dereck Lively or Donovan Clingan type) for Agbaji and a protected 1st. Other teams also know he'll need a new contract soon and will value him accordingly.

At that price point, you're either looking at "young, but limited" or "established veteran backup." Think someone like Day'ron Sharpe or Trayce Jackson-Davis (and you keep the 1st)

If the Raptors aren't going to extend Agbaji, I think you're better off getting a serviceable backup like Nick Richards from the Suns with the Suns adding minor draft capital.

In truth, the Raptors should be starting Agbaji and moving Barrett to sixth man after trading for Ingram.

Three way trade

Raptors get: Kessler

Jazz get: Knecht + 2027 Raptors 1st (unprotected) + 2031 Lakers 1st (unprotected) + 2027 Lakers 1st (1-4)

Lakers get: Walter

Why for Raptors?
They get the requested center.

Why for Jazz?
They get two unprotected 1st round picks and protection is lifted from the 2027 pick owed to them by the Lakers. They have shooters already but Ainge might want Knecht still. He dropped 40 against Utah. Trading Kessler helps their tank, their future payroll, and tehy reload with potentially valuable picks.

Why for Lakers?
Walter is 3 and D. He could start at guard for them next to Luka. He is similar to their former player, KCP. Lakers had interest in him in the draft. Also, he is cost controlled. Bonus, his name is Ja'Kobe Walter. Good use of those picks.

Raps dont really need a C. A backup C could be fine, but I imagine CMB is gonna be the backup there. I dont see them paying actual draft capital for a backup C

scoobs07 wrote:Three way trade

Raptors get: Kessler

Jazz get: Knecht + 2027 Raptors 1st (unprotected) + 2031 Lakers 1st (unprotected) + 2027 Lakers 1st (1-4)

Lakers get: Walter

Why for Raptors?
They get the requested center.

Why for Jazz?
They get two unprotected 1st round picks and protection is lifted from the 2027 pick owed to them by the Lakers. They have shooters already but Ainge might want Knecht still. He dropped 40 against Utah. Trading Kessler helps their tank, their future payroll, and tehy reload with potentially valuable picks.

Why for Lakers?
Walter is 3 and D. He could start at guard for them next to Luka. He is similar to their former player, KCP. Lakers had interest in him in the draft. Also, he is cost controlled. Bonus, his name is Ja'Kobe Walter. Good use of those picks.

I just don’t see any logic behind the Lakers trading two first for a project wing in Walter who potentially could become a good rotation player. The deal makes no sense for them and doesn’t even get them a starting level player.

Lakers immediate need is a starting center then an established 3&D wing.

Raptors should target Myles Turner once the Greek is traded or look for a backup like Jalen Smith to fit with their current roster. Poeltl would need to be moved if they go after Myles.

scoobs07 wrote:Three way trade

Raptors get: Kessler

Jazz get: Knecht + 2027 Raptors 1st (unprotected) + 2031 Lakers 1st (unprotected) + 2027 Lakers 1st (1-4)

Lakers get: Walter

Why for Raptors?
They get the requested center.

Why for Jazz?
They get two unprotected 1st round picks and protection is lifted from the 2027 pick owed to them by the Lakers. They have shooters already but Ainge might want Knecht still. He dropped 40 against Utah. Trading Kessler helps their tank, their future payroll, and tehy reload with potentially valuable picks.

Why for Lakers?
Walter is 3 and D. He could start at guard for them next to Luka. He is similar to their former player, KCP. Lakers had interest in him in the draft. Also, he is cost controlled. Bonus, his name is Ja'Kobe Walter. Good use of those picks.

Can’t see Kessler returning 3 practically unprotected FRP.

JRoy wrote:

scoobs07 wrote:Three way trade

Raptors get: Kessler

Jazz get: Knecht + 2027 Raptors 1st (unprotected) + 2031 Lakers 1st (unprotected) + 2027 Lakers 1st (1-4)

Lakers get: Walter

Why for Raptors?
They get the requested center.

Why for Jazz?
They get two unprotected 1st round picks and protection is lifted from the 2027 pick owed to them by the Lakers. They have shooters already but Ainge might want Knecht still. He dropped 40 against Utah. Trading Kessler helps their tank, their future payroll, and tehy reload with potentially valuable picks.

Why for Lakers?
Walter is 3 and D. He could start at guard for them next to Luka. He is similar to their former player, KCP. Lakers had interest in him in the draft. Also, he is cost controlled. Bonus, his name is Ja'Kobe Walter. Good use of those picks.

Can’t see Kessler returning 3 practically unprotected FRP.

That Lakers 1st is already owed to them, but the Lakers are removing that protection as part of the trade. What would you say is the value of that? I mean is it equivalent to three 2nds, or call it like 50% of a 1st? The upside is tremendous though, if a generational player happens to be available at that point, and the Lakers fall into the top 4 in 2027. Utah seems to want a lot for the guy though.

scoobs07 wrote:

JRoy wrote:

scoobs07 wrote:Three way trade

Raptors get: Kessler

Jazz get: Knecht + 2027 Raptors 1st (unprotected) + 2031 Lakers 1st (unprotected) + 2027 Lakers 1st (1-4)

Lakers get: Walter

Why for Raptors?
They get the requested center.

Why for Jazz?
They get two unprotected 1st round picks and protection is lifted from the 2027 pick owed to them by the Lakers. They have shooters already but Ainge might want Knecht still. He dropped 40 against Utah. Trading Kessler helps their tank, their future payroll, and tehy reload with potentially valuable picks.

Why for Lakers?
Walter is 3 and D. He could start at guard for them next to Luka. He is similar to their former player, KCP. Lakers had interest in him in the draft. Also, he is cost controlled. Bonus, his name is Ja'Kobe Walter. Good use of those picks.

Can’t see Kessler returning 3 practically unprotected FRP.

That Lakers 1st is already owed to them, but the Lakers are removing that protection as part of the trade. What would you say is the value of that? I mean is it equivalent to three 2nds, or call it like 50% of a 1st? The upside is tremendous though, if a generational player happens to be available at that point, and the Lakers fall into the top 4 in 2027. Utah seems to want a lot for the guy though.

Ainge rarely gives more than he gets.

Ask Portland to keep them updated if they ever need move a C . Keep going along as is and probably draft a C prospect in next draft instead .

Devilanche wrote:Ask Portland to keep them updated if they ever need move a C . Keep going along as is and probably draft a C prospect in next draft instead .

This is probably the best trade the Raptors can wait out for. Both teams can develop their pieces but the Trailblazers already are loaded at the wings.

Thaddy wrote:

Devilanche wrote:Ask Portland to keep them updated if they ever need move a C . Keep going along as is and probably draft a C prospect in next draft instead .

This is probably the best trade the Raptors can wait out for. Both teams can develop their pieces but the Trailblazers already are loaded at the wings.

No interest in RJ or Agbaji for Clingan or Yang. Maybe RW in a different deal, but he is so damn brittle.

JRoy wrote:

Thaddy wrote:

Devilanche wrote:Ask Portland to keep them updated if they ever need move a C . Keep going along as is and probably draft a C prospect in next draft instead .

This is probably the best trade the Raptors can wait out for. Both teams can develop their pieces but the Trailblazers already are loaded at the wings.

No interest in RJ or Agbaji for Clingan or Yang. Maybe RW in a different deal, but he is so damn brittle.

RJ, Walter, Dick, and Agbaji will likely be held onto for the Raptors. I can see them bringing RJ back on a cheap deal and waiting it out. I am going to guess at least one of these guys emerges as a starting caliber player. Eventually the Blazers will need to trade one of their C prospects. It could be a good potential trade a year or two from now. At this time I doubt either team says yes unless it's very lopsided.

Goga Bitadze is too good for his limited role in ORL (if everyone is healthy)...Carter is the starter and when Moe Wagner comes back, the second unit needs his offense. Isaac is big enough to eat some minutes in the Center rotation (maybe even rookie Penda), so Goga is kind of the odd man out. He filled in very admirably as a starter whenever Carter was (frequently) injured.

I don't know what makes sense coming back for ORL as they are very deep and facing a looming cap situation. Obviously, ORL just sent out lots of picks - so restocking might be the priority...I like Agbaji but it's no longer really a desperate backcourt situation anymore...I suppose a pick and an expiring(s) would be the price as both teams are over the tax line. Maybe a third team comes in to take Agbaji or Dick.

Skybox wrote:Goga Bitadze is too good for his limited role in ORL (if everyone is healthy)...Carter is the starter and when Moe Wagner comes back, the second unit needs his offense. Isaac is big enough to eat some minutes in the Center rotation (maybe even rookie Penda), so Goga is kind of the odd man out. He filled in very admirably as a starter whenever Carter was (frequently) injured.

I don't know what makes sense coming back for ORL as they are very deep and facing a looming cap situation. Obviously, ORL just sent out lots of picks - so restocking might be the priority...I like Agbaji but it's no longer really a desperate backcourt situation anymore...I suppose a pick and an expiring(s) would be the price as both teams are over the tax line. Maybe a third team comes in to take Agbaji or Dick.

Goga isn't bringing back a 1st round pick

Can Agbaji handle the ball?

As a Blazers fan, I agree with the idea that Blazers will eventually move on from 1 of their 2 young centers, but it is too early. I doubt they have concluded which is more expendable, plus trading one would make them extra thin at center for now, so any hopes of prying either away at this time would require a significant overpay.

gswhoops wrote:

Skybox wrote:Goga Bitadze is too good for his limited role in ORL (if everyone is healthy)...Carter is the starter and when Moe Wagner comes back, the second unit needs his offense. Isaac is big enough to eat some minutes in the Center rotation (maybe even rookie Penda), so Goga is kind of the odd man out. He filled in very admirably as a starter whenever Carter was (frequently) injured.

I don't know what makes sense coming back for ORL as they are very deep and facing a looming cap situation. Obviously, ORL just sent out lots of picks - so restocking might be the priority...I like Agbaji but it's no longer really a desperate backcourt situation anymore...I suppose a pick and an expiring(s) would be the price as both teams are over the tax line. Maybe a third team comes in to take Agbaji or Dick.

Goga isn't bringing back a 1st round pick

I'd say he's worth a late first...but TOR won't have any of those for a while. He'd be a super-solid backup and spot starter.