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Kings, Grizzlies, Jazz, Pistons 

Post#1 » by nolian » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:11 pm

Kings
out: Derozan (to Grizzlies), DevinCarter, Saric (to Jazz), Monk, Raynaud (to Pistons)
in: KCP, I.Stewart, Ivey, SloMo, Kessler
Schoreder, Lavine, Murray, Sabonis, Kessler
Westbrook(freeagent), Ivey, K.Ellis, KCP, Clifford, SloMo, Stewart
refresh the roster, selling offensive old (or out of project) players like DDR and Monk, and add young players like Kessler, Stewart, Ivey and one veteran defenseve player in KCP

Grizzlies
out: JJJ, KCP, Clarke, Konchar
in: Markkanen, DDR, Eubanks
Morant, Wells, DDR, Markkanen, Edey
Pippen, TyJerome, Coward, Aldama, GGJackson, Eubanks
DDR could be the veteran who teach professionality to Ja
In addition they refresh the roster to bring space for the youn players (Coward, Jerome, Edey)

Jazz
out: Kessler (two year in the market), SloMo, Lauri
in: JJJ, Clarke, Konchar, Saric, DevinCarter, draft compensation (right to swap)
switch Lauri in JJJ
add some draft compensation

Pistons
out: I.Stewart, Ivey, draft compensation
in: Monk, Landale, Raynaud
Dante, D.Robinson, Thompson, Harris, Duren
Monk, LeVert, Holland, Reed, Landale
switch Ivey (that is exiring and would a new contract next summer) in Monk that bring points from the bench and has two more years of contract), switch expensive bench C in minus expensive Landale and french rookie


you can adjust the trade with draft compensation

or you can value the trade without JJJ, Clarke, Konchar and Markkanen
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Re: Kings, Grizzlies, Jazz, Pistons 

Post#2 » by BK_2020 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:18 pm

Memphis are not trading JJJ for Lauri, especially not when the rationale is "DDR could be the veteran who teach professionality to Ja."
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Post#3 » by psman2 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:19 pm

Cannot think of any reason Memphis would be interested in this even if draft capitol is added. Doubt Lauri is a target at all for us and DDR is a nothing burger.
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Re: Kings, Grizzlies, Jazz, Pistons 

Post#4 » by jbk1234 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:26 pm

This is just brutal for the Grizzlies and Pistons. It's not really fixable.
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Re: Kings, Grizzlies, Jazz, Pistons 

Post#5 » by QMemphis » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:28 pm

Hard pass from Grizz
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Post#6 » by zeebneeb » Tue Oct 14, 2025 4:11 pm

Hard pass from Piston fan. "Expensive bench big"? You mean the best at the rim defense in the entire league for 15per? He's worth more then the return alone, but you want Ivey, and draft picks?

This isn't even salvageable as a proposal.
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Post#7 » by SkyHook » Tue Oct 14, 2025 4:28 pm

No idea about the Jazz FO, but I have zero interest in overpaying a weak rebounding big like JJJ.
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Post#8 » by nolian » Tue Oct 14, 2025 4:57 pm

SkyHook wrote:No idea about the Jazz FO, but I have zero interest in overpaying a weak rebounding big like JJJ.

the Jazz FO doesn't wants to built around Lauri (He is on the market from above an year) and doesn't want to re-sign Kessler (he in on the market from above two years)

JJJ is a weak rebounder, but is a really good defender
The Jazz are probably trying to built around Clayton, Bayley and other young players (and around the future 2026 draft pick)
All of these player are not a big man, so I think JJJ can be part of the project, while Lauri and Kessler doesn't be part already

(Lauri is overpaid more than JJJ. Lauri has a big contract, but he can have his stats only in a tanking team, JJJ instead can be part of a playoff team)

For the Jazz is better to pay 185 x 4 years to JJJ than pay 195 x 4 years to Lauri
Kessler has not a big trade value (otherwise he would be alreadey traded)
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Post#9 » by SkyHook » Tue Oct 14, 2025 5:08 pm

nolian wrote:
SkyHook wrote:No idea about the Jazz FO, but I have zero interest in overpaying a weak rebounding big like JJJ.

the Jazz FO doesn't wants to built around Lauri (He is on the market from above an year) and doesn't want to re-sign Kessler (he in on the market from above two years)

JJJ is a weak rebounder, but is a really good defender
The Jazz are probably trying to built around Clayton, Bayley and other young players (and around the future 2026 draft pick)
All of these player are not a big man, so I think JJJ can be part of the project, while Lauri and Kessler doesn't be part already

(Lauri is overpaid more than JJJ. Lauri has a big contract, but he can have his stats only in a tanking team, JJJ instead can be part of a playoff team)

For the Jazz is better to pay 185 x 4 years to JJJ than pay 195 x 4 years to Lauri
Kessler has not a big trade value (otherwise he would be alreadey traded)

You're welcome to your opinion and to interpret the Jazz motivations in the trade market however you prefer. You're making definitive assertions as to what the Jazz FO wants which I don't believe are true (though I've stated that I really don't know). I would rather have Lauri than JJJ on their respective contracts. I'd rather have Kessler (on whatever his upcoming market value contract ends up being) than the scraps here.
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Re: Kings, Grizzlies, Jazz, Pistons 

Post#10 » by ChuckDurn » Tue Oct 14, 2025 5:59 pm

nolian wrote:
SkyHook wrote:No idea about the Jazz FO, but I have zero interest in overpaying a weak rebounding big like JJJ.

the Jazz FO doesn't wants to built around Lauri (He is on the market from above an year) and doesn't want to re-sign Kessler (he in on the market from above two years)

JJJ is a weak rebounder, but is a really good defender
The Jazz are probably trying to built around Clayton, Bayley and other young players (and around the future 2026 draft pick)
All of these player are not a big man, so I think JJJ can be part of the project, while Lauri and Kessler doesn't be part already

(Lauri is overpaid more than JJJ. Lauri has a big contract, but he can have his stats only in a tanking team, JJJ instead can be part of a playoff team)

For the Jazz is better to pay 185 x 4 years to JJJ than pay 195 x 4 years to Lauri
Kessler has not a big trade value (otherwise he would be alreadey traded)

I don’t have any stake in this as a fan of any of the teams involved (I’m a Warriors’ fan), but my sense is that the Jazz front office has made Kessler and Markkanen available “for overpays only”. In other words, if they can get great value for either (more than market value), they’ll trade them, but that doesn’t mean they’re actively trying to get rid of them. If anything, it kind of suggests that they plan to build around them, unless somebody offers great incentive for them to not do so.
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