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Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:04 pm
by JJ_PR
Cavs get: Giannis Antetokounmpo
Bucks get: Darius Garland, Jarrett Allen, '31 unprotected, '30 swap and 4 2nds

Why?
Cavs get a superstar in his prime.
Bucks get a decent package of players to stay competitive and high variable firsts.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:17 pm
by meekrab
It's in the range of possibly acceptable if Giannis says he wants to play with Mitchell and Mobley but those 4 2nds should really be another first somehow.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:19 pm
by JJ_PR
meekrab wrote:It's in the range of possibly acceptable if Giannis says he wants to play with Mitchell and Mobley but those 4 2nds should really be another first somehow.


Agreed. I added all the tradeable firsts, Garland and Allen as the headliner is a pretty competitive offer imo.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 12:52 am
by mcfly1204
Similar to other Giannis proposals, I struggle to see Cleveland keeping their top two players in the deal.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 12:59 am
by LarsV8
I don't think the Bucks would want to build around these two, so you would have to route them for other rebuilding pieces, specifically for their own picks back.

Ultimately, I think other teams would have better offers.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 2:00 am
by One_and_Done
It doesn't work, because it ignores the fact that Giannis isn’t going to want to play in Cleveland

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 2:06 am
by babyjax13
I don't understand why Milwaukee would do this at all. They would be stuck in the purgatory of mediocrity. They are owed either Mobley or Mitchell in a deal, and if Cleveland understandably prefers their core, then there is no trade to be made.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 2:32 am
by jbk1234
The Cavs can't consolidate as they're over the second apron. This summer Wade falls off the books and Ball isn't guaranteed. The Bucks have Miles Turner so I imagine this trade starts with Allen going to a third team for picks and a decent player on a rookie contract (Hornets?) The Cavs drop below the aprons and then they can ship Strus, Garland, picks and the Allen return to the Bucks.

But really, I suspect a Giannis trade would have to wait until the summer from the Cavs perspective to see if Mitchell is willing to extend. If not, Giannis isn't extending either and the Cavs pass. Even if everyone extends, you're spending 105% of your cap on 3 players, you've shortened your window, and increased your pick debt out two more seasons.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:09 am
by JayMKE
Not even close. Also Cleveland wouldn’t be on Giannis’s list if there was one, stop dreaming. Would rather Giannis walk than this poo poo platter.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 3:23 am
by JRoy
JayMKE wrote:Not even close. Also Cleveland wouldn’t be on Giannis’s list if there was one, stop dreaming. Would rather Giannis walk than this poo poo platter.


You would rather let GA walk than 2 young all stars and multiple picks?

If GA gets traded it will probably be for less than that.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 1:29 pm
by Wolveswin
Cavs would have to be on Giannis’ list. If not, no trade works. If so, it has to be Mobley.

And OP isn’t a legal trade. Not close.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 5:18 pm
by jbk1234
Wolveswin wrote:Cavs would have to be on Giannis’ list. If not, no trade works. If so, it has to be Mobley.

And OP isn’t a legal trade. Not close.


I'm pretty sure the Cavs will be good with no trade, at least this season.

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 6:10 pm
by SkyHook
This isn't even a legal trade as Cleveland is deep into the 2nd apron and can't aggregate salaries, right?

Re: Cavs and Bucks (Giannis)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 6:14 pm
by toooskies
The Cavs need to drop $13.1m more in salary for the trade to be legal. Either Strus or Wade+Ball need to go to a third/fourth team.

Milwaukee desperately needs young talent in return if they dump Giannis because of their lack of future picks. They might be interested in Tyson or Proctor as developmental pieces in exchange for some of their minimum vets as part of the deal.

That by itself has the Cavs trading 5+ players. That's not happening until the offseason at the earliest.