Bulls Make a Move (Nets/Jazz/Pels/Kings/Raps)

pipfan · Post #1 » by **pipfan** » Sat Oct 18, 2025 5:39 pm

Let's say the Bulls are better than expected. Giddey is gonna have huge stats, Coby should be 22/game and Matas looks like a stud. We have all of our picks plus the Port pick, a ton of expiring deals and we play in a weak East.

Raps-if they suck and like Boyles for the future, would they do a deal of Barnes?
Utah-Lauri is a GREAT fit with Giddey/Matas and could be a good 1st option for us
BRK-They plan to suck, and Claxton would be a MUCH better fit than Vuc. Could be bigger and take MPJr too (gotta move PWill then)
Sac-Would Sabonis fit in the middle? Sac will probably also be bad and might want a restart
NO-Zion would look awesome with Giddey running the show, is he worth the risk.

The assumptions is that one of the five teams here might want to blow it up and go for a top 5 pick (BRK/Utah already there). Bulls are playing well and want an upgrade.

The Bulls have Vuc as a good size expiring, plus others and picks. I'm thinking either they use Noa/the Port pick/expirings as the base of the deal, or maybe just picks.

The Bulls' FO won't tank, so might as well get better. Which team would do Vuc/expiring/picks (and maybe Noa) for their star? Again, this is assuming they are bad by Jan.

Godaddycurse · Post #2 » by **Godaddycurse** » Sat Oct 18, 2025 6:51 pm

I think if we suck then ingram could be had for relatively cheap.

SkyHook · Post #3 » by **SkyHook** » Sat Oct 18, 2025 7:39 pm

It's only preseason and too early for the team that drafted him with a lottery pick to necessarily panic, but has Essengue done anything yet to show that he even belongs in the league? He's extremely raw and just may not stick. Unfortunately, he is only "asset" with even theoretical upside to the Jazz that's being offered in exchange for Lauri. It's a non-starter.

chrbal · Post #4 » by **chrbal** » Sat Oct 18, 2025 8:26 pm

I mean the expected win total is about 33 this season. Do the Bulls really want/need to go all in?

That said maybe something like Nikola to the Lakers, Claxton to the Bulls, Vincent/Kleber to the Nets. Bulls owe at least a first to Brooklyn, Lakers pay to go from those two to a starting center option.

babyjax13 · Post #5 » by **babyjax13** » Sun Oct 19, 2025 6:43 pm

SkyHook wrote:It's only preseason and too early for the team that drafted him with a lottery pick to necessarily panic, but has Essengue done anything yet to show that he even belongs in the league? He's extremely raw and just may not stick. Unfortunately, he is only "asset" with even theoretical upside to the Jazz that's being offered in exchange for Lauri. It's a non-starter.

Not only that, but Hendricks and Flip are both power forwards. So even if you read nothing into preseason and Summer League (which seems fine to do, especially given his age) we would have to value his upside much more than them, and I see no reason to do that. He would just be a third string player for us.

nolian · Post #6 » by **nolian** » Mon Oct 20, 2025 1:23 pm

chrbal wrote:I mean the expected win total is about 33 this season. Do the Bulls really want/need to go all in?

which is the number of win expected in the last season for the Pistons?

tcheco · Post #7 » by **tcheco** » Mon Oct 20, 2025 3:09 pm

Cant see them trading for a PF with Matas being played there, right? Barnes can play SF but not sure is his best spot, only if he improves his shooting. Sabonis could be good, but Claxton defensive upside and lower price might make more sense.

If I'm bulls I'm trading for both MPJ and Claxton honestly, just get your defensive center and a great shooter that doesnt need the ball in his hands. But is the team is looking promising, would you change it this much?

Looking at how they are built: Giddey and White are locks at 1 and 2, right? neither is a defensive force. Thats why they traded for Okoro at 3? A more stablished 3-D would fit beter there. Then Matas at 4 is looking promising, and Vucevic is delivering 18/10 most likely again this season. If they shift from Vooch to Claxton they might need a change too at SF.

chrbal · Post #8 » by **chrbal** » Mon Oct 20, 2025 8:14 pm

nolian wrote:
chrbal wrote:I mean the expected win total is about 33 this season. Do the Bulls really want/need to go all in?

which is the number of win expected in the last season for the Pistons?

More than they won. I’m not saying the Bulls are only going to win 33 games, I just can’t see them doing much better than that.

Pistons roster from 23/24 to 24/25 added a bunch of veteran shooters, changed their head coach (from one who had checked out) and changed their GM.

Bulls didn’t really change much, coach and GM are the same. I’m more just saying Chicago really shouldn’t go all in at the deadline I’m thinking

tcheco · Post #9 » by **tcheco** » Tue Oct 21, 2025 12:58 pm

chrbal wrote:
nolian wrote:
chrbal wrote:I mean the expected win total is about 33 this season. Do the Bulls really want/need to go all in?

which is the number of win expected in the last season for the Pistons?

More than they won. I’m not saying the Bulls are only going to win 33 games, I just can’t see them doing much better than that.

Pistons roster from 23/24 to 24/25 added a bunch of veteran shooters, changed their head coach (from one who had checked out) and changed their GM.

Bulls didn’t really change much, coach and GM are the same. I’m more just saying Chicago really shouldn’t go all in at the deadline I’m thinking

I mean, if they look good at the deadline, could see them making a move where they dont use all their assets. Getting Claxton for example is not all-in, just a trade to make the roster more balanced and a cost controlled center signed long term.

They haven't made much change in the offseason, but they got Giddey midseason and the team finished the season strong and with a full offseason its fair to think they will perform better overall compared to the whole last year. Add to that an expected growth from Matas... sure it's fair to question if this will trasnlate to wins, but for the premise of the thread makes sense, since OP is not suggesting making a move to win only this year or next

OGSactownballer · Post #10 » by **OGSactownballer** » Tue Oct 21, 2025 1:31 pm

Nothing about this makes any sense for Sac and there isn’t nearly enough value.

tcheco · Post #11 » by **tcheco** » Tue Oct 21, 2025 2:16 pm

OGSactownballer wrote:Nothing about this makes any sense for Sac and there isn’t nearly enough value.

Recently drafted Noa plus 2 picks and expirings is not near Sabonis value?

Seems close to it at least, I have Sabonis worth 3 pick package(either players or picks of that value) and expirings honestly.

Kings won 40 games last year and added only Dennis and Westbrook to the roste, in the same position of their last lotto pick, Murray and Nique are the only players with upside. Trading Sabonis with his value at the highest for a prospect and 2 picks in the 2026 draft that should be deep seems to make sense.

Of course it doesnt align with anything the Kings are doing, they think they can contend, but looking at the roster, there's no way they can. Unbalanced roster to start the season is worrysome

nolian · Post #12 » by **nolian** » Wed Oct 22, 2025 11:21 am

chrbal wrote:
nolian wrote:
chrbal wrote:I mean the expected win total is about 33 this season. Do the Bulls really want/need to go all in?

which is the number of win expected in the last season for the Pistons?

More than they won.

This is not true

The Pistons were not expected to the playoff, were not expected over .500

As a matter of fact, anyone who talkedabout the Knicks-Timberwolves trade (KAT, Randle, DDV, Pistons FRP), never had considered the value of the Detroit's pick, because anyone thought that the 2025 Detroit's FRP will be converted in 2026 FRP or in later two second round pick (the pick was lottery protected in 2025)