Sac and Orlando

[Sactowndog]

Orlando clearly needs offensive fire power as their offensive rating needs to be reset.

Sac Sends
Malik Monk

Orlando’s sends
Johnathon Isaac
Tristan de Silva

Why for Sac:
Opens up a bit of time at guard for Keon
Frees up salary if they cut Isaac
Provides forward depth

Why for Orlando.
Malik provides offensive fire power off the bench
Would blend nicely running the PnR with Banchero as a secondary ball handler.
Would blend nicely with Suggs off ball

[gswhoops]

I don't think Orlando is the team that needs to add value to a Monk for Isaac swap.

[JRoy]

Seems close without the picks.

[Sactowndog]

I don't think Orlando is the team that needs to add value to a Monk for Isaac swap.

Well then given salaries trade is not doable and Isaac isn’t playing.

[jbk1234]

I don't think Orlando is the team that needs to add value to a Monk for Isaac swap.

Well then given salaries trade is not doable and Isaac isn’t playing.

If Isaac misses 22 games this season, he's only guaranteed for $8M next season. I think the potential salary relief makes up for any value gap. If there's a bit of filler needed to make the trade legal, the Kings should let the Magic choose.

[tcheco]

Isaac and Jet Howard for Monk seems fair enough. Isaac either plays well enough or misses 22 games and is cut for 8M next year. Jett howard has little upside but Tristan is more valuable than Monk today probably

[BlazersBroncos]

ORL would be foolish to move Silva. If the team doesnt gell IMO your looking to move one of Paolo or Franz in a shake-up deal and Silva can slide into either F slot and be a quality 4/5th starter IMO.

That being said - even if they would move him this is bad value. Monk is closer to JI + filler + 2 SRP.

[Sactowndog]

I don't think Orlando is the team that needs to add value to a Monk for Isaac swap.

Well then given salaries trade is not doable and Isaac isn’t playing.

If Isaac misses 22 games this season, he's only guaranteed for $8M next season. I think the potential salary relief makes up for any value gap. If there's a bit of filler needed to make the trade legal, the Kings should let the Magic choose.

Yeah the depends on what they choose. An oft injured Isaac has minimal value so from my standpoint it would kill the deal. The Magic need scoring more than the Kings need to make this trade. We are going to suck regardless while the Magic hoped to compete.

[Sactowndog]

ORL would be foolish to move Silva. If the team doesnt gell IMO your looking to move one of Paolo or Franz in a shake-up deal and Silva can slide into either F slot and be a quality 4/5th starter IMO.

That being said - even if they would move him this is bad value. Monk is closer to JI + filler + 2 SRP.

Yeah I could drop the 2 seconds but for me Silva was the reason to make the trade. JI has limited value as he legitimately can’t shoot and can’t stay healthy.

[jbk1234]

Well then given salaries trade is not doable and Isaac isn’t playing.

If Isaac misses 22 games this season, he's only guaranteed for $8M next season. I think the potential salary relief makes up for any value gap. If there's a bit of filler needed to make the trade legal, the Kings should let the Magic choose.

Yeah the depends on what they choose. An oft injured Isaac has minimal value so from my standpoint it would kill the deal. The Magic need scoring more than the Kings need to make this trade. We are going to suck regardless while the Magic hoped to compete.

I mean there's value to getting off Monk's future money to the Kings particularly with Murray's extention kicking in. I'm not a Kuminga fan, but I bet the Warriors would be more amenable to taking back Isaac's deal. If not, DeRozan will be expiring next season and could probably be bought out after the deadline.

It would be one thing of both Monk and DDR hadn't already been shopped hard last summer, but they were and the Kings found no takers.

[OGSactownballer]

I have less than zero interest in anything involving Jonathan Isaac coming to the Kings for any sort of real value. He cannot stay healthy or play more than short burst minutes on the rare occasion that he is.

[Sactowndog]

If Isaac misses 22 games this season, he's only guaranteed for $8M next season. I think the potential salary relief makes up for any value gap. If there's a bit of filler needed to make the trade legal, the Kings should let the Magic choose.

Yeah the depends on what they choose. An oft injured Isaac has minimal value so from my standpoint it would kill the deal. The Magic need scoring more than the Kings need to make this trade. We are going to suck regardless while the Magic hoped to compete.

I mean there's value to getting off Monk's future money to the Kings particularly with Murray's extention kicking in. I'm not a Kuminga fan, but I bet the Warriors would be more amenable to taking back Isaac's deal. If not, DeRozan will be expiring next season and could probably be bought out after the deadline.

It would be one thing of both Monk and DDR hadn't already been shopped hard last summer, but they were and the Kings found no takers.

Don’t know what the Kings were asking in terms of no takers. In Orlando’s case they have gone all in on this core and need more firepower off the bench. De Silva is not providing it.

[jjohns828]

With how weak the bench forward rotation is I can't see the Magic moving Da Silva, at least not without bringing in another forward. In this scenario the Magic would have just Noah Penda and Jett Howard as the bench forwards and that's just not workable even with the number of minutes you would expect Franz and Paolo to play. Then when you factor in Isaac's lack of reliability that leaves Da Silva as someone I just can't see the Magic moving unless they are also bringing in a decent backup forward. Even if Monk is an upgrade to Black and Jones in the bench guard rotation it just isn't worth what it does to the rest of the bench.

[Sactowndog]

With how weak the bench forward rotation is I can't see the Magic moving Da Silva, at least not without bringing in another forward. In this scenario the Magic would have just Noah Penda and Jett Howard as the bench forwards and that's just not workable even with the number of minutes you would expect Franz and Paolo to play. Then when you factor in Isaac's lack of reliability that leaves Da Silva as someone I just can't see the Magic moving unless they are also bringing in a decent backup forward. Even if Monk is an upgrade to Black and Jones in the bench guard rotation it just isn't worth what it does to the rest of the bench.

Sure but your post also highlights why Isaac alone gets nothing done. If Issac and Howard are the two then you have to add draft capital in my opinion.

[jjohns828]

With how weak the bench forward rotation is I can't see the Magic moving Da Silva, at least not without bringing in another forward. In this scenario the Magic would have just Noah Penda and Jett Howard as the bench forwards and that's just not workable even with the number of minutes you would expect Franz and Paolo to play. Then when you factor in Isaac's lack of reliability that leaves Da Silva as someone I just can't see the Magic moving unless they are also bringing in a decent backup forward. Even if Monk is an upgrade to Black and Jones in the bench guard rotation it just isn't worth what it does to the rest of the bench.

Sure but your post also highlights why Isaac alone gets nothing done. If Issac and Howard are the two then you have to add draft capital in my opinion.

I actually agree with that but I wouldn't be targeting Monk at all for the Magic. Sure Monk is an upgrade but even though Tyus Jones hasn't been good so far with him Black and Richardson I don't think it's pressing enough to spend draft capital to get him, especially when I think getting another backup forward that could replace Isaac and be more reliable than him would be the better move to make.

[SNPA]

Carter/Silva for Monk.

[jjohns828]

Carter/Silva for Monk.

I can't see the Magic doing that as that would leave Goga as the only healthy center on the roster besides a couple of two way contracts and Isaac as the primary backup forward with only Noah Penda and Jett Howard behind him. Sure Monk is an upgrade to our bench guards but the damage it would do to the rest of our bench would be greater than the benefit.

[dcstanley]

Magic in: Malik Monk and Dalton Knecht
Kings in: Tristan Da Silva, Jonathan Issac, Jett Howard, LAL 2028 pick swap
Lakers in: Keon Ellis

[ReggiesKnicks]

Magic in: Malik Monk and Dalton Knecht
Kings in: Tristan Da Silva, Jonathan Issac, Jett Howard, LAL 2028 pick swap
Lakers in: Keon Ellis

The Lakers give up virtually nothing for Keon Ellis.

The Kings are trading Monk and Ellis for virtually nothing.

This trade is DOA.