What does a Sacramento Kings fire sale look like?
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What does a Sacramento Kings fire sale look like?
The Kings are unsurprisingly a bottom feeder. Assuming their management pivots to a tank, what does their fire date look like?
Assume they want to keep their under 25 players, so the trade candidates are:
- Sabonis
- Lavine
- Schroder
- Monk
- Demar
- Westbrook
Help them tank and get picks+prospects. Each person is allowed no more than 2 trades.
Assume they want to keep their under 25 players, so the trade candidates are:
- Sabonis
- Lavine
- Schroder
- Monk
- Demar
- Westbrook
Help them tank and get picks+prospects. Each person is allowed no more than 2 trades.
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Feels the same as Dallas. You look at a roster with no (starting level*) guards and are surprised it doesn’t work. You look at a roster with no forwards and are surprised it doesn’t work..
Except Sac owns all of their future picks and didn’t trade a top 3 player last season… So feel like their bad situation is less bad than Dallas despite Dallas having Cooper Flagg and AD..
But same result. You can fix your roster, even if it means trading at a loss, or you can tank and look at getting what value you can.
So.. a feeler offer for Nico trying to keep his job? Lively, Gafford, Klay, Martin, 2029 LAL first for Sabonis.
Sabonis’ offense could keep this season afloat while AD, PJ, Flagg should protect him on defense..
If not maybe Atlanta? Whether you want to pair Sabonis with Trae (KP, Kennard, Asa, asset) and take advantage of OO/Zac’s cheap deals or look at building some three team deal around Trae/Sabonis.. Maybe Sabonis and Monk for KP and Trae built up with whatever third team? Terrible idea?
Except Sac owns all of their future picks and didn’t trade a top 3 player last season… So feel like their bad situation is less bad than Dallas despite Dallas having Cooper Flagg and AD..
But same result. You can fix your roster, even if it means trading at a loss, or you can tank and look at getting what value you can.
So.. a feeler offer for Nico trying to keep his job? Lively, Gafford, Klay, Martin, 2029 LAL first for Sabonis.
Sabonis’ offense could keep this season afloat while AD, PJ, Flagg should protect him on defense..
If not maybe Atlanta? Whether you want to pair Sabonis with Trae (KP, Kennard, Asa, asset) and take advantage of OO/Zac’s cheap deals or look at building some three team deal around Trae/Sabonis.. Maybe Sabonis and Monk for KP and Trae built up with whatever third team? Terrible idea?
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It looks like a sad garage sale with no traffic LOL.
Sabonis is the only one with any trade value.
Sabonis is the only one with any trade value.
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You could get some pieces for Sabonis, not great, but something.
Monk and Schroder you might be able to get some seconds from a team who needs rotation guys at the deadline.
For Lavine and Derozan, you will have to wait till they are expiring, and then take back a worse contract, maybe like a Paul George, to turn it into assets.
All in all, its not a great starting point, but this is the year to bottom out.
Monk and Schroder you might be able to get some seconds from a team who needs rotation guys at the deadline.
For Lavine and Derozan, you will have to wait till they are expiring, and then take back a worse contract, maybe like a Paul George, to turn it into assets.
All in all, its not a great starting point, but this is the year to bottom out.

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Only Sabonis has more value than a 2nd or two of that group.

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Sabonis has value.
DDR is only partially guaranteed next year. So a team looking to get a scorer for the playoffs and drop salary next year could take him. Or Sac could just do him a solid and let him go find a team pre-playoffs this year and eat the 10m next year.
Monk has a few spots he could be useful. Not a huge return but he will be movable to a few clubs.
Dennis might surprisingly be movable based on a slight shortage of available starting PGs. Not a huge return but convertible into something else possibly. Or fine being a backup if Sac gets a better PG.
LaVine is expiring next year. In the apron era a contract like that could have real value to a team looking to pivot and needing to cut salary. If that type of team was smart they’d go after him this year at the deadline. He can also lead a year tank and his name value provides some cover for casuals.
Sac is going to come to a point where they’ll have to decide…go rebuild (Vivek hasn’t done that) or use draft capital to add to a Sabonis team.
DDR is only partially guaranteed next year. So a team looking to get a scorer for the playoffs and drop salary next year could take him. Or Sac could just do him a solid and let him go find a team pre-playoffs this year and eat the 10m next year.
Monk has a few spots he could be useful. Not a huge return but he will be movable to a few clubs.
Dennis might surprisingly be movable based on a slight shortage of available starting PGs. Not a huge return but convertible into something else possibly. Or fine being a backup if Sac gets a better PG.
LaVine is expiring next year. In the apron era a contract like that could have real value to a team looking to pivot and needing to cut salary. If that type of team was smart they’d go after him this year at the deadline. He can also lead a year tank and his name value provides some cover for casuals.
Sac is going to come to a point where they’ll have to decide…go rebuild (Vivek hasn’t done that) or use draft capital to add to a Sabonis team.
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The date for the fire sale is December 15th for most teams. Sacramento is at the top of the list for doing a rebuild.
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Long Post- Here's my take on these guys -
Sabonis still has some value to the right team, I'm looking at a team in purgatory with some good pieces that wants to be relevant and knows hes the stepping stone not the final solution. ATL, Charlotte, Jazz, and I actually also like JayJay idea of Mavs but not for that package. His value feels like an Expiring, mid prospect, and a 1st.
LaVine - Actually not the black hole he was made out to be. If anything you wish he was consistently more involved. Low IQ, lazy, and doesn't play defense, but one of the most talented scorers in the league. Curious if he'd be motivated on a good team, but his contracts too big to find out. Stuck with him.
Demar - The true black hole on this roster. We've gone 3-4 possessions where nobody else touches the ball on offense. I can't imagine why everyone else isn't engaged when hes on the court /s. In reality, he can still score, but he needs to be doing that off the bench for a contender making half what he does now. I don't think Portland would, but trash expirings like RWIII/Thybulle for a team that needs help scoring makes sense.
Monk - Actually a good player, and a massive spark plug. I think he fits on any good team. I get the hesitancy because the 3rd year and maybe you wish he was making 15 million instead of 18. He was the 2nd best scorer on good kings teams. GS didn't want him but I think they could use him. Orlando. Dallas. Clippers maybe for Bogdan expiring?
Schroder - Not a real starting pg and got overpaid this summer. 2 years 24 million and a lot of teams like him as a backup. 3/45, going to be tough to move him this year.
Westbrook - Best player on the team this year. But contenders don't like him. Maybe a team who needs a pg gives a 2nd for him?
Keon - Kings brass doesn't like him. The most valuable piece listed here. Every contender should be begging the Kings for Keon for a 1st. Minnesota, Denver, Milwaukee, NYK, Denver. This kid can absolutely play on both sides.
Sabonis still has some value to the right team, I'm looking at a team in purgatory with some good pieces that wants to be relevant and knows hes the stepping stone not the final solution. ATL, Charlotte, Jazz, and I actually also like JayJay idea of Mavs but not for that package. His value feels like an Expiring, mid prospect, and a 1st.
LaVine - Actually not the black hole he was made out to be. If anything you wish he was consistently more involved. Low IQ, lazy, and doesn't play defense, but one of the most talented scorers in the league. Curious if he'd be motivated on a good team, but his contracts too big to find out. Stuck with him.
Demar - The true black hole on this roster. We've gone 3-4 possessions where nobody else touches the ball on offense. I can't imagine why everyone else isn't engaged when hes on the court /s. In reality, he can still score, but he needs to be doing that off the bench for a contender making half what he does now. I don't think Portland would, but trash expirings like RWIII/Thybulle for a team that needs help scoring makes sense.
Monk - Actually a good player, and a massive spark plug. I think he fits on any good team. I get the hesitancy because the 3rd year and maybe you wish he was making 15 million instead of 18. He was the 2nd best scorer on good kings teams. GS didn't want him but I think they could use him. Orlando. Dallas. Clippers maybe for Bogdan expiring?
Schroder - Not a real starting pg and got overpaid this summer. 2 years 24 million and a lot of teams like him as a backup. 3/45, going to be tough to move him this year.
Westbrook - Best player on the team this year. But contenders don't like him. Maybe a team who needs a pg gives a 2nd for him?
Keon - Kings brass doesn't like him. The most valuable piece listed here. Every contender should be begging the Kings for Keon for a 1st. Minnesota, Denver, Milwaukee, NYK, Denver. This kid can absolutely play on both sides.
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Pass for POR.
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Kings send Sabonis
Raptors send Dick, Agbaji, Quickley, 27 FRP
Raptors get a scoring center to put with Barnes/Ingram. Keeping defenses honest.
Kings get a rehab project in Quickley, 2 players that come off salary next year and a pick. The cost between Quickley and Sabonis is minimal from 3 to 4 years.
Raptors send Dick, Agbaji, Quickley, 27 FRP
Raptors get a scoring center to put with Barnes/Ingram. Keeping defenses honest.
Kings get a rehab project in Quickley, 2 players that come off salary next year and a pick. The cost between Quickley and Sabonis is minimal from 3 to 4 years.
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MessiahUjiri wrote:Each person is allowed no more than 2 trades.
Since when does someone get to dictate how much others post?
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Lakers need to get in on this, not sure for who and what but they'll make something happen.
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Here are some individual trades.
Sabonis, McDerrmott, Eubanks to Utah for Nurkic, Anderson, Hendricks, Williams, 2027 LAL 1st
Jazz would have a pretty interesting roster with some good young guards, Bailey, Lauri, Flip, and Sabonis. When Kessler comes back they can try big Houston style lineups with Walker/Sabonis.
Sabonis to ATL for KP, Asa, Minimum salary + worst of the NOP/Milwaukee 2027 1st
ATL has some big forwards to help Sabonis, plus a fast guard who can play off of him.
Sabonis to Memphis for KCP, Aldama, 2030 Orlando 1st
Monk to LAC for Bogdan + Kobe Brown.
LAC upgrades and gets some more firepower off the bench. Kings shave 2 years off Monks deal.
Demar + 2nd for Simons - Saves Boston 3 million this year from what I see getting below 1st apron, but costs them 10 next year. Unless they can re-trade him at the deadline.
Keon + 2nds for Peyton Watson + a 2031 Denver 1st lotto protected
Denver adds another perfect fit. A scrappy defender who shoots 40% from 3. Kings get a bigger defensive prospect and a pick 6 years from now.
Sabonis, McDerrmott, Eubanks to Utah for Nurkic, Anderson, Hendricks, Williams, 2027 LAL 1st
Jazz would have a pretty interesting roster with some good young guards, Bailey, Lauri, Flip, and Sabonis. When Kessler comes back they can try big Houston style lineups with Walker/Sabonis.
Sabonis to ATL for KP, Asa, Minimum salary + worst of the NOP/Milwaukee 2027 1st
ATL has some big forwards to help Sabonis, plus a fast guard who can play off of him.
Sabonis to Memphis for KCP, Aldama, 2030 Orlando 1st
Monk to LAC for Bogdan + Kobe Brown.
LAC upgrades and gets some more firepower off the bench. Kings shave 2 years off Monks deal.
Demar + 2nd for Simons - Saves Boston 3 million this year from what I see getting below 1st apron, but costs them 10 next year. Unless they can re-trade him at the deadline.
Keon + 2nds for Peyton Watson + a 2031 Denver 1st lotto protected
Denver adds another perfect fit. A scrappy defender who shoots 40% from 3. Kings get a bigger defensive prospect and a pick 6 years from now.
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The only particularly interesting guys are Sabonis and Ellis. Monk and Schroeder can be effective in smaller roles than their contracts are appropriate for, limiting their value (I guess the same could be said for LaVine).
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babyjax13 wrote:Only Sabonis has more value than a 2nd or two of that group.
I disagree with this, Lavine should grab a first maybe even two depending on the trade.
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JRoy wrote:Pass for POR.
Lol I don't think ever seen you like any trade fans have proposed for your team
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SlimShady83 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Only Sabonis has more value than a 2nd or two of that group.
I disagree with this, Lavine should grab a first maybe even two depending on the trade.
Lavine would cost a first or two to dump.

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SlimShady83 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Only Sabonis has more value than a 2nd or two of that group.
I disagree with this, Lavine should grab a first maybe even two depending on the trade.
Lavine is a bad long term contract. Giving an asset for him seems like a mistake.

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babyjax13 wrote:SlimShady83 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Only Sabonis has more value than a 2nd or two of that group.
I disagree with this, Lavine should grab a first maybe even two depending on the trade.
Lavine is a bad long term contract. Giving an asset for him seems like a mistake.
Mistakes are always going to happen teams will pay.
My Lakers Team Incoming
Starters: Luka/Reaves/Herb/Timme/Claxton
Bench: Laravia, Hayes, Smart, Sharpe, Vando, Theiro, N,Smith
*** A working progress
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Bench: Laravia, Hayes, Smart, Sharpe, Vando, Theiro, N,Smith
*** A working progress
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Sabonis, Saric, McDermott
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Sexton, Grant Williams, Josh Green, Salaun, 2027 DAL 1st (top 2 prot)
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Sexton, Grant Williams, Josh Green, Salaun, 2027 DAL 1st (top 2 prot)
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