Milwaukee - Cleveland - Utah - Dallas

Godaddycurse · Post #1 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jul 27, 2026 7:01 pm

Milwaukee out: KPJ, LeVert
Milwaukee receive: Konchar, Williams

Cleveland trade: Allen, Schroder
Cleveland receive: KPJ, Nurkic, Washington, Collier

Utah trade: Nurkic, Collier, Konchar, Williams, 2027 2nd best of CLE/UTAH/MINN 1st
Utah receive: Allen, LeVert (into TPE)

Dallas trade: Washington
Dallas receive: Schroder, 2027 2nd best of CLE/UTAH/MINN 1st 1st

Why for Milwaukee: clear guard clutter and turn KPJ into a forward prospect
Why for Cleveland: improve their depth around mitchell/mobley
Why for Utah: improve starting C
Why for Dallas: clear forward clutter and get a pick for PJ

jayjaysee · Post #2 » by **jayjaysee** » Mon Jul 27, 2026 7:10 pm

I don’t think Nurk can be traded until December, so don’t think this works. I guess if everyone is still on the same teams, but I don’t think they will be?

Sort of wonder if CLT would rather the long shot of Cody over a KPJ reunion. Has been a lot of time though.

babyjax13 · Post #3 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Jul 27, 2026 7:16 pm

I think Utah isn't sending enough to get Allen? We probably owe one more first, IMO. I'd do it at the deadline, as much as I enjoy Nurkic and Collier.

Godaddycurse · Post #4 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jul 27, 2026 7:18 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I think Utah isn't sending enough to get Allen? We probably owe one more first, IMO. I'd do it at the deadline, as much as I enjoy Nurkic and Collier.

I had eating schroder + sending out collier = another frp in value in addition to nurkic/fillers and frp. Can always add more seconds if you want..

Bernman · Post #5 » by **Bernman** » Mon Jul 27, 2026 7:19 pm

Hard no for the Bucks. KPJ is far and away the best player outgoing/incoming & he can play 1-3. Milwaukee gets 2 bad players, 1 who's a guard. Only benefit is they save about 8 million this yr, toward Peyton Watson space. Would rather just trade Green into a tpe though.

jbk1234 · Post #6 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jul 27, 2026 7:54 pm

The Cavs aren't trade Allen for this type of return.

AingesBurner · Post #7 » by **AingesBurner** » Mon Jul 27, 2026 9:43 pm

Bad publicity move by trade Nurk. I’d pass.

gflem · Post #8 » by **gflem** » Mon Jul 27, 2026 9:53 pm

KPJ isn't ever coming back to the Cavs. He torched that bridge to get out the last time. However, Allen and Shroeder for PJ and Gafford works straight up. It saves around $6 mil cap room for the Cavs according to fanspo. I don't know which team would need to add what? Cavs fans probably think Dallas adds and Dallas fans probably think opposite.

bgrep14 · Post #9 » by **bgrep14** » Mon Jul 27, 2026 11:07 pm

This is at least 1 first short coming to Cleveland if not a 1st and 2 2nds. Pretty easy no from Cleveland.

jbk1234 · Post #10 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jul 27, 2026 11:18 pm

gflem wrote:KPJ isn't ever coming back to the Cavs. He torched that bridge to get out the last time. However, Allen and Shroeder for PJ and Gafford works straight up. It saves around $6 mil cap room for the Cavs according to fanspo. I don't know which team would need to add what? Cavs fans probably think Dallas adds and Dallas fans probably think opposite.

I must of repressed KPJ's inclusion, but yeah he won't be coming back to Cleveland so long as Altman runs the front office.

JJ_PR · Post #11 » by **JJ_PR** » Tue Jul 28, 2026 5:05 am

Cavs don't need more guards.

Daddy 801 · Post #12 » by **Daddy 801** » Tue Jul 28, 2026 7:47 am

Don’t think this is the deal that gets a deal done, but Allen is a top priority if I am Utah and it isn’t an overpay.

babyjax13 · Post #13 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Jul 28, 2026 8:00 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:I think Utah isn't sending enough to get Allen? We probably owe one more first, IMO. I'd do it at the deadline, as much as I enjoy Nurkic and Collier.

I had eating schroder + sending out collier = another frp in value in addition to nurkic/fillers and frp. Can always add more seconds if you want..

I don't really like Schroder, but I don't think the contract is that bad for him. OTOH I really like Collier, but he also just isn't very valuable. I still think Cleveland is owed a first from us in this deal.

DowJones · Post #14 » by **DowJones** » Tue Jul 28, 2026 11:23 am

Allen is a really good player. Easy no for Cleveland.

tsarcast · Post #15 » by **tsarcast** » Tue Jul 28, 2026 12:27 pm

Seems bad for everyone so the value is probably close.

jbk1234 · Post #16 » by **jbk1234** » Tue Jul 28, 2026 12:32 pm

tsarcast wrote:Seems bad for everyone so the value is probably close.

It's not. What were Zubac and Kessler just traded for? Marc Stein just reported that the Hawks want Allen and the Cavs aren't interested.

SkyHook · Post #17 » by **SkyHook** » Tue Jul 28, 2026 2:15 pm

Allen is a good target for the Jazz, but it would have to cost them more than this. Utah has the assets to make something happen after 12/15. Nurk + Bailey is CBA legal, but I don't know that either side would be happy with it.

jbk1234 · Post #18 » by **jbk1234** » Tue Jul 28, 2026 3:46 pm

SkyHook wrote:Allen is a good target for the Jazz, but it would have to cost them more than this. Utah has the assets to make something happen after 12/15. Nurk + Bailey is CBA legal, but I don't know that either side would be happy with it.

The fundamental problem with trading Garland for Harden is the Cavs failed to upgrade the backcourt defensively, and as a result, they still need to keep both bigs to keep the defense from imploding.

SkyHook · Post #19 » by **SkyHook** » Tue Jul 28, 2026 5:09 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
SkyHook wrote:Allen is a good target for the Jazz, but it would have to cost them more than this. Utah has the assets to make something happen after 12/15. Nurk + Bailey is CBA legal, but I don't know that either side would be happy with it.

The fundamental problem with trading Garland for Harden is the Cavs failed to upgrade the backcourt defensively, and as a result, they still need to keep both bigs to keep the defense from imploding.

I get it. Utah has a similar problem with a porous backcourt, but are now without the eraser behind them to compensate for their defensive flaws.

giannis and 1 · Post #20 » by **giannis and 1** » Wed Jul 29, 2026 12:53 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:Milwaukee out: KPJ, LeVert
Milwaukee receive: Konchar, Williams

Cleveland trade: Allen, Schroder
Cleveland receive: KPJ, Nurkic, Washington, Collier

Utah trade: Nurkic, Collier, Konchar, Williams, 2027 2nd best of CLE/UTAH/MINN 1st
Utah receive: Allen, LeVert (into TPE)

Dallas trade: Washington
Dallas receive: Schroder, 2027 2nd best of CLE/UTAH/MINN 1st 1st

Why for Milwaukee: clear guard clutter and turn KPJ into a forward prospect
Why for Cleveland: improve their depth around mitchell/mobley
Why for Utah: improve starting C
Why for Dallas: clear forward clutter and get a pick for PJ

I would consider it from a Bucks pov.