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Hypothetical: Kawhi trade canceled, what does TOR do?
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Hypothetical: Kawhi trade canceled, what does TOR do?
Let's say the Kawhi trade gets canceled. What does Toronto do?
Reminder a/b the details of the trade:
Gradey Dick
Brandon Ingram
First-round picks in 2031 and 2033
Second-round picks in 2030 and 2033
First-round pick swap in 2027
for
Kawhi Leonard
Reminder a/b the details of the trade:
Gradey Dick
Brandon Ingram
First-round picks in 2031 and 2033
Second-round picks in 2030 and 2033
First-round pick swap in 2027
for
Kawhi Leonard

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
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Ingram sent out in a trade :
To NO for Zion?
To Nets for MJP?
To ORL for Bane?
To POR for Jrue?
I think thats at least the easy possibilities
To NO for Zion?
To Nets for MJP?
To ORL for Bane?
To POR for Jrue?
I think thats at least the easy possibilities
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Why for Kings? they've got a Zach Lavine problem at least according to youtube and the vibe I've been getting
Why for Raptors? They've already tried trading Ingram/Dick got to be some friction with in the team
• Raptors recieve, Zach Lavine
• Kings recieve, Brandon Ingram and Gradey Dick ...
Both teams move on from players who they've tried trading for and this works on spotrac straight up ... I'll let y'all decide on draft capital...
But makes sense for both teams and all parties IMO.
Why for Raptors? They've already tried trading Ingram/Dick got to be some friction with in the team
• Raptors recieve, Zach Lavine
• Kings recieve, Brandon Ingram and Gradey Dick ...
Both teams move on from players who they've tried trading for and this works on spotrac straight up ... I'll let y'all decide on draft capital...
But makes sense for both teams and all parties IMO.
My Lakers Team Incoming
Starters: Kessler, Ziaire, Grimes, Reaves, Luka
Bench:Sexton, Mamu, Thiero, Carr, Thybulle, Looney, Vando, Laravia, Hardy, Knecht
1 or 2 more moves needed
Starters: Kessler, Ziaire, Grimes, Reaves, Luka
Bench:Sexton, Mamu, Thiero, Carr, Thybulle, Looney, Vando, Laravia, Hardy, Knecht
1 or 2 more moves needed
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tester551 wrote:Ingram sent out in a trade :
To NO for Zion?
To Nets for MJP?
To ORL for Bane?
To POR for Jrue?
I think thats at least the easy possibilities
I don't think the Pelicans trade for Ingram back, don't think the Nets trade MPJ for him without compensation, don't think he fits with Orlando because he isn't as good of a shooter as Bane and is another somewhat ball-dominant player. Portland is kind of interesting?

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
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SlimShady83 wrote:Why for Kings? they've got a Zach Lavine problem at least according to youtube and the vibe I've been getting
Why for Raptors? They've already tried trading Ingram/Dick got to be some friction with in the team
• Raptors recieve, Zach Lavine
• Kings recieve, Brandon Ingram and Gradey Dick ...
Both teams move on from players who they've tried trading for and this works on spotrac straight up ... I'll let y'all decide on draft capital...
But makes sense for both teams and all parties IMO.
I feel like Sabonis maybe makes more sense, but I kind of like this, too.

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
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I think they probably renegotiate a trade even if Kawhi can't play, just with less draft picks.
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Perhaps Poeltl, Dick and 2nds for Myles Turner?
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I like Jrue and Turner in Toronto
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zimpy27 wrote:I think they probably renegotiate a trade even if Kawhi can't play, just with less draft picks.
If Kawhi's just suspended for a bit then the trade probably goes through with less picks.
If the trade's called off then Toronto probably just stands pat had hopes for better health in the playoffs (and perhaps salary-dumps Dick).
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See if Houston bites for KD.
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Bentley1225 wrote:Perhaps Poeltl, Dick and 2nds for Myles Turner?
I don't see Milwaukee being remotely interested in that.

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
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Kawhi will probably get a slap on the wrist, at the worst. I think the trade still goes through.
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Toronto will need to maintain the current deal structure as GM's now know what is on the plate. That limits the good values out there.
Kawhi will probably get a 30-game suspension and will then extend with the Clippers for a 4/$120M declining deal (35/32/29/23).
Kawhi will probably get a 30-game suspension and will then extend with the Clippers for a 4/$120M declining deal (35/32/29/23).
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Add Quickley and trade to Portland for Scoot/Sharpe/Jrue
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If Kawhi knowingly took more money and circumvented the cap, it seems like he will be severely suspended. Obviously the Clippers will get a serious fine and other penalties like losing picks, etc.
It doesn’t seem like Toronto should be punished, so maybe Silver goes to them for their preferred remedy since they traded for an asset they are not getting in its full capacity. If it’s a huge suspension, Toronto probably gets the option to rescind the trade. Regardless of how awkward it is getting their traded players back, I’d expect them to rescind and start over.
It doesn’t seem like Toronto should be punished, so maybe Silver goes to them for their preferred remedy since they traded for an asset they are not getting in its full capacity. If it’s a huge suspension, Toronto probably gets the option to rescind the trade. Regardless of how awkward it is getting their traded players back, I’d expect them to rescind and start over.
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clippertown wrote:Toronto will need to maintain the current deal structure as GM's now know what is on the plate. That limits the good values out there.
Kawhi will probably get a 30-game suspension and will then extend with the Clippers for a 4/$120M declining deal (35/32/29/23).
I agree he would get a big suspension. I also think he would lose his Bird rights and have his contract terminated. So he doesn’t get that big deal.
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How much sense to Trey Murphy make for Toronto? I wouldn't go crazy with a Bane type of deal but I think he fits really well in Toronto
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Mr Swagtastic wrote:How much sense to Trey Murphy make for Toronto? I wouldn't go crazy with a Bane type of deal but I think he fits really well in Toronto
Hes not worth multiple picks more than ingram
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theBigLip wrote:clippertown wrote:Toronto will need to maintain the current deal structure as GM's now know what is on the plate. That limits the good values out there.
Kawhi will probably get a 30-game suspension and will then extend with the Clippers for a 4/$120M declining deal (35/32/29/23).
I agree he would get a big suspension. I also think he would lose his Bird rights and have his contract terminated. So he doesn’t get that big deal.
Players union would have a fit. Never going to happen and if by some miracle it does, it happens in mid 2027 after lengthy appeals.
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