Kyrie to Toronto

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Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#1 » by Thaddy » Tue Aug 18, 2026 5:25 am

Toronto Raptors receive: Kyrie Irving

Dallas Mavericks receive: Immanuel Quickley, Ja'Kobe Walter and a 2028 first-round pick (top-five protected)


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25469335-how-kyrie-irving-trade-could-shake-2027-nba-championship-race

Fair deal?

Toronto would have a very good core.

Poeltl / Graves
Barnes / CMB
Leonard / Anderson
RJ / DeRozan?
Irving / Shead

Lively / Gafford
Flagg / Johnson
Washington / Risacher
Christie / Thompson
IQ / Sasser
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#2 » by babyjax13 » Tue Aug 18, 2026 5:31 am

I don't love it for Dallas. I like Walter and the pick is fine. Quickley is a bit overpaid and Kyrie gives them much higher ceiling than with IQ.
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#3 » by LarsV8 » Tue Aug 18, 2026 5:34 am

I don't think any team is trading anything of value for Irving until they see him play.

A 34 year old, whose game is built around quickness, after a major injury.....he could very well be done as an NBA player.
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#4 » by JimmyPlopper » Tue Aug 18, 2026 5:50 am

I actually really like the idea behind it but I agree that Dallas needs more. Irving, Kawhi and Barnes would be an incredible triumvirate
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#5 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Aug 18, 2026 6:05 am

OP is illegal. We dont have enough room under the apron and keep a 14 man roster
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#6 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Aug 18, 2026 1:29 pm

Value is probably fair. And if the Kawhi deal goes through, and the news from yesterday means it is, then Toronto should figure out how to make the money work and do this.

Its really meh for Dallas, but obviously if Kyrie wanted it Dallas likely bites the bullet and hope they could offload IQ on somebody.
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Post#7 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Aug 18, 2026 1:39 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Value is probably fair. And if the Kawhi deal goes through, and the news from yesterday means it is, then Toronto should figure out how to make the money work and do this.

Its really meh for Dallas, but obviously if Kyrie wanted it Dallas likely bites the bullet and hope they could offload IQ on somebody.


we would have to trade RJ. im skeptical the FO is ready to turnover 60% of its starting lineup after one successful (regular) season together
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#8 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Aug 18, 2026 1:49 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Value is probably fair. And if the Kawhi deal goes through, and the news from yesterday means it is, then Toronto should figure out how to make the money work and do this.

Its really meh for Dallas, but obviously if Kyrie wanted it Dallas likely bites the bullet and hope they could offload IQ on somebody.


we would have to trade RJ. im skeptical the FO is ready to turnover 60% of its starting lineup after one successful (regular) season together


I think RJ or Poeltl should be pretty expendable, but will defer to you on how aggressive Toronto is willing to be. If they feel its too much change then I guess the idea is DOA. But I'd definitely be trying to win a title with Kawhi and this is a big upgrade towards that.
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#9 » by esvl » Tue Aug 18, 2026 1:57 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Value is probably fair. And if the Kawhi deal goes through, and the news from yesterday means it is, then Toronto should figure out how to make the money work and do this.

Its really meh for Dallas, but obviously if Kyrie wanted it Dallas likely bites the bullet and hope they could offload IQ on somebody.


we would have to trade RJ. im skeptical the FO is ready to turnover 60% of its starting lineup after one successful (regular) season together

It sounds like RJ is a difference-maker. He is not.
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Post#10 » by Bentley1225 » Tue Aug 18, 2026 2:12 pm

IQ + RJ + Future 1st
for
Irving + Thompson + Lively

Quickley/Sasser
Barrett/Christie/de Larrea
Flagg/Marshall/Martin
Washington/Risacher/Biberovic
Gafford/Aldama/Johnson Jr.

Irving/Shead
Walter/Thompson/Martin
Leonard/Graves/Battle
Barnes/Murray-Boyles/Anderson
Poeltl/Davis/Lively
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#11 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Aug 18, 2026 2:37 pm

esvl wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Value is probably fair. And if the Kawhi deal goes through, and the news from yesterday means it is, then Toronto should figure out how to make the money work and do this.

Its really meh for Dallas, but obviously if Kyrie wanted it Dallas likely bites the bullet and hope they could offload IQ on somebody.


we would have to trade RJ. im skeptical the FO is ready to turnover 60% of its starting lineup after one successful (regular) season together

It sounds like RJ is a difference-maker. He is not.


He will be when we inevitably have to load manage kawhi heavily.
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Post#12 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Aug 18, 2026 2:41 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Value is probably fair. And if the Kawhi deal goes through, and the news from yesterday means it is, then Toronto should figure out how to make the money work and do this.

Its really meh for Dallas, but obviously if Kyrie wanted it Dallas likely bites the bullet and hope they could offload IQ on somebody.


we would have to trade RJ. im skeptical the FO is ready to turnover 60% of its starting lineup after one successful (regular) season together


I think RJ or Poeltl should be pretty expendable, but will defer to you on how aggressive Toronto is willing to be. If they feel its too much change then I guess the idea is DOA. But I'd definitely be trying to win a title with Kawhi and this is a big upgrade towards that.


Issue i have with that is you need depth to win these days, especially so with the way Darko runs his D. If Playoffs Barnes is for real then I would prefer to surround Kawhi and Barnes with 3 starter caliber players than another offensive star and 2 scrubs, similar to the 2019 raptors squad
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#13 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Aug 18, 2026 2:43 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
esvl wrote:
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we would have to trade RJ. im skeptical the FO is ready to turnover 60% of its starting lineup after one successful (regular) season together

It sounds like RJ is a difference-maker. He is not.


He will be when we inevitably have to load manage kawhi heavily.


Kyrie has a much better chance of anchoring a competent offense in those games than RJ Barrett does though right?

I mean overall I mostly agree with you that because it takes another big salary for Toronto to be able to turn IQ into Kyrie its probably not particularly realistic.

But it could be fixed by swapping Poeltl and Gafford and just adding a bit more value to Dallas. Or maybe its RJ for Klay/Christie? That latter one actually feels really good for Toronto in terms of re-balancing the roster.
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#14 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Aug 18, 2026 2:47 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
esvl wrote:It sounds like RJ is a difference-maker. He is not.


He will be when we inevitably have to load manage kawhi heavily.


Kyrie has a much better chance of anchoring a competent offense in those games than RJ Barrett does though right?

I mean overall I mostly agree with you that because it takes another big salary for Toronto to make able to turn IQ into Kyrie its probably not particularly realistic.

But it could be fixed by swapping Poeltl and Gafford and just adding a bit more value to Dallas. Or maybe its RJ for Klay/Christie? That latter one actually feels really good for Toronto in terms of re-balancing the roster.


Imo kyrie also needs load managing given his age and mileage.

I prefer we see how the season goes first with Kawhi and the rest of the starting lineup to identify where (if any) our weakest link is. Would be a bad idea to blow the load on Kyrie now and realize later Poeltl (and/or Kyrie) continue to have health issues.
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Re: Kyrie to Toronto 

Post#15 » by wegotthabeet » Tue Aug 18, 2026 3:02 pm

Would love this if there were a way to keep Walter. Maybe by adding unprotected swaps. We need him as the POA defender.

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