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PHi Outgoing
2009 utah pick.
Samuel Dalembert
Salary: $10,251,435 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 11.0 REB: 9.5 AST: 0.6 PER: 16.51
Andre Miller
Salary: $9,600,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 16.1 REB: 4.2 AST: 6.4 PER: 17.65
Reggie Evans
Salary: $4,320,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 5.5 REB: 8.1 AST: 0.9 PER: 9.74
Incoming
Pat Garrity Waived
Salary: $3,818,750 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 2.3 REB: 2.0 AST: 0.6 PER: 0.21

Adonal Foyle Waived
Salary: $1,219,590 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 1.9 REB: 2.7 AST: 0.2 PER: 10.44

Rasho Nesterovic
Salary: $7,840,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 4.7 REB: 4.6 AST: 0.9 PER: 11.96

Keyon Dooling Waived, resigns with magic
Salary: $3,596,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.2 REB: 1.2 AST: 1.8 PER: 13.07

Carlos Arroyo
Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 6.2 REB: 2.0 AST: 4.0 PER: 13.87

James Augustine Waived
Salary: $687,456 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 1.5 REB: 0.9 AST: 0.1 PER: 12.90

Andrea Bargnani
Salary: $4,838,880 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.4 REB: 3.6 AST: 1.1 PER: 9.44

Keith Bogans Waived Resigns with magic
Salary: $2,440,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.4 REB: 4.1 AST: 1.3 PER: 10.82


ORl Outgoing
J.J. Redick
Salary: $2,000,160 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.2 REB: 0.3 AST: 0.5 PER: 10.01
Pat Garrity
Salary: $3,818,750 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 2.3 REB: 2.0 AST: 0.6 PER: 0.21

Adonal Foyle
Salary: $1,219,590 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 1.9 REB: 2.7 AST: 0.2 PER: 10.44

Keyon Dooling waived resigns with magic
Salary: $3,596,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.2 REB: 1.2 AST: 1.8 PER: 13.07

Carlos Arroyo
Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 6.2 REB: 2.0 AST: 4.0 PER: 13.87

James Augustine
Salary: $687,456 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 1.5 REB: 0.9 AST: 0.1 PER: 12.90

Keith Bogans waived resigns with magic
Salary: $2,440,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.4 REB: 4.1 AST: 1.3 PER: 10.82

Incoming
Andre Miller
Reggie Evans

Toronto Outgoing
Andrea Baragani
Rasho Nestorivc
Incoming
Samuel Dalembert
J.J Reddick
2009 utah pick
Why for Orlando
They give up spare parts for a monster rebounder to ake them the best rebounding frontcourt in the league, and they get a good pointguard. They also resign a couple of the players they give up, and only have to throw in expirers. They give up their pick this year but that's not to worry because it will be a late first.
Why For Philadelphia
They get a good prospect In baragani, and expirers. Rasho holds down the center spot and low willl and smith step up to get more time. The cap they save for this offseason will be somewhere in the range of a additional 23 million.

Why for Toronto
They get a good center to stick next to Bosh to help fight Boston. They get a sniper in Reddick to hit the three when it gets kicked out to him. and they get the pick

Works out very well for Orlando... not sure I see the reasoning for Toronto. Dalembert is not exactly going to help them against Garnett.

MagicFan3 wrote:Works out very well for Orlando... not sure I see the reasoning for Toronto. Dalembert is not exactly going to help them against Garnett.

actually, Dalembert is a good defender who can offer support, and isn't a bad offensive player. He's athletic and is blossoming into a very nice defender. You should have seen the block he had last night. He had perfect timing, waiting for west to go up, and smack it away.

as toronto id pass. were not ready to give up on bargnani just yet.


and why is philly getting like 8 players back? lmao.

raps4life~ wrote:as toronto id pass. were not ready to give up on bargnani just yet.


and why is philly getting like 8 players back? lmao.

Because the salaries have to match.

This is a good trade for you, you get a real center in Dalembert, and also you recieve a prospect in Reddick who can hit a few threes, and plays well.

It's not a good trade for Toronto. Bargnani has tons of potential and that's not matched with what they receive...

BBallFreak wrote:It's not a good trade for Toronto. Bargnani has tons of potential and that's not matched with what they receive...

Actually, considering they recieve Philadelphias 2009 first via utah, it's really not that bad of a trade.

They get Dalembert, who is miles ahead of Nestorivic and is a much better player. They get Reddick, who isn't that bad of a prospect. And they get a pick. This is good value for Baragini who is creeping towards being a bust.

Like I said, I disagree. Reddick, a late first, and Dalembert is not a particularly attractive package IMO.

BBallFreak wrote:Like I said, I disagree. Reddick, a late first, and Dalembert is not a particularly attractive package IMO.

For a guy who's close to being a bust, that's pretty nice? I mean a Starting center a good role player, and a pick is really a good package for a guy who is just hyped up a lot.

roseorbust wrote:For a guy who's close to being a bust, that's pretty nice? I mean a Starting center a good role player, and a pick is really a good package for a guy who is just hyped up a lot.

That's a rather poor assessment, IMO. He's a big and they take time to develop. He's also a big shooting 39.5% from downtown. The only way they should deal him now is if it's in a bigger deal for a star player.

But if you're so down on the near bust, I'm sure you wouldn't mind them subbing him out for some other spare parts...

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That's a rather poor assessment, IMO. He's a big and they take time to develop. He's also a big shooting 39.5% from downtown. The only way they should deal him now is if it's in a bigger deal for a star player.

But if you're so down on the near bust, I'm sure you wouldn't mind them subbing him out for some other spare parts...

Yeah maybe if we take out our first and they add one and take him out.

This ruins Philly completely. Dalembert is a core player for any team. Nestrovic is a Bust with multiple years left on his deal. Bargani has gone backwards, and he doesn't have a spot in Philly cause Jason Smith is flat out a better player, and three times the athlete, and Young is better as a SF. Philly would laugh this idea right out of town.

Raptors say NO.

Philly should just trade with Miami for JW. They give up nothing, could possibly "tank" with the addition of a JW and get a better 1st round pick as a result.

inrapscity wrote:Philly should just trade with Miami for JW. They give up nothing, could possibly "tank" with the addition of a JW and get a better 1st round pick as a result.

Problem is, Miami doesn't want Andre Miller. I could see Orlando going for it, though...

ak06ma wrote:Raptors say NO.

I disagree. You give up two busts for 2 good players. But I wouldn't approach what Joey A says, he's a insane homer. I don't agree with anyone in this thread. If the raptors were permitted to take out bargani, and Calderon and a first, would they do it?

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Problem is, Miami doesn't want Andre Miller. I could see Orlando going for it, though...

why doesn't Miami want Andre Miller?

yea i cant see Toronto giving up on Bargs...hes still got alot of potential.

The logical deal for Philly and Orlando would be to send Reggie Evans and/or Miller there for Expirings and possibly a late pick.

Nelson obviously isnt ready to lead the Magic to a chip but Miller could do somethings with Shard and Dwight.

i'll be the first in line when its time to dub bargs a bust but its still too early. daly is a nice player but id still hold on to bargnani.