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Post#1 » by Smills91 » Tue Jan 1, 2008 6:29 pm

Sacramento trades:
Mike Bibby
Kenny Thomas
Quincy Douby

Sacramento receives:
Brandon Wright
Smush Parker
Alonzo Mourning
TPE

Miami trades:
Jason Williams
Udonis Haslem
Alonzo Mourning (salary filler)
Smush Parker (salary filler)
2007 2nd round pick

Miami receives:
Mike Bibby
Kenny Thomas
Mickael Pietrus

Golden State trades:
Brandon Wright
Mikael Pietrus
TPE

Golden State receives:
Jason Williams
Udonis Haslem
Quincy Douby
2007 2nd round pick


Sacramento rebuilds for the future. Brandon Wright looks to be a very active fit next to a young Spencer Hawes. He gives the Kings hope of a promising future front court. Kings shed salary for free agency.

Golden State addresses their back-up PG position for only this year in terms of contract and get a very good PF who would be a seamless fit for their style for the next couple of years that is on a reasonable contract. Williams expiring contract will allow the W's to extend Biedrins/Ellis this off-season while improving for this year. Douby adds yet another player who can come off the bench and light it up. Warriors fans are familiar with what Quincy can do.

Miami upgrades their PG position by a lot, they downgrade PG some but also pick-up Pietrus to solidify their wing positions. THis move helps put Miami in a position to get back to the playoffs and contend.

Sacramento:
C: Brad Miller, Spencer Hawes, Justin Williams, Alonzo Mourning
PF: Mikki Moore, Brandon Wright, SAR
SF: Ron Artest, Francisco Garcia
SG: Kevin Martin, John Salmons, Dahntay Jones
PG: Beno Udrih, Smush Parker



Miami:
C: Shaquille Oneal, Mark Blount, Earl Barron
PF: Kenny Thomas, Alexander Johnson, Joel Anthony
SF: Ricky Davis, Dorell Wright, Luke Jackson
SG: Dwayne Wade, Mikael Pietrus
PG: Mike Bibby, Chris Quinn

Golden State:
C: Andris Biedrins, Patrick O'Bryant, DJ Mbenga
PF: Udonis Haslem, Al Harrington, Kosta Perovic
SF: Stephen Jackson, Matt Barnes, Austin Croshere
SG: Monta Ellis, Kelenna Azubuike, Marco Belinelli
PG: Baron Davis, Jason Williams, Quincy Douby

Waive: Troy Hudson's season ending injury
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Post#2 » by lakerhater » Tue Jan 1, 2008 6:35 pm

Easy no from the Warriors. Why would they trade for Haslem? Nellie would barely play him. His mid-range game only gets in the way of the Warriors spread the floor and attack offense. Good player but a bad fit on the Warriors.
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Post#3 » by Smills91 » Tue Jan 1, 2008 6:43 pm

lakerhater wrote:Easy no from the Warriors. Why would they trade for Haslem? Nellie would barely play him. His mid-range game only gets in the way of the Warriors spread the floor and attack offense. Good player but a bad fit on the Warriors.


With such an up-tempo long range bombing swaud...Haslem is a GREAT fit. His ability to run the floor, REBOUND the basketball and hit the mid-range J is a perfect fit. The mid-range J opens up cuts to the basketball for when the long ball in unavailable. I don't understand where you think a 'mid-range' game hinders a team that relies on long-distance shooting coupled with attacking the rim. He's an IDEAL fit at PF due to his strong knack for grabbing rebounds and giving the Warriors additional possessions.
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Post#4 » by turk3d » Tue Jan 1, 2008 6:48 pm

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With such an up-tempo long range bombing swaud...Haslem is a GREAT fit. His ability to run the floor, REBOUND the basketball and hit the mid-range J is a perfect fit. The mid-range J opens up cuts to the basketball for when the long ball in unavailable. I don't understand where you think a 'mid-range' game hinders a team that relies on long-distance shooting coupled with attacking the rim. He's an IDEAL fit at PF due to his strong knack for grabbing rebounds and giving the Warriors additional possessions.

Right now we're very happy with Harrington at the 4 (last night 16 points 11 rebounds) and we see Brandon Wright as his future replacement. You'd do better in trying to get Harrington for UD, plus we have no interest in taking on any more salary (via TPE).
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Post#5 » by giberish » Tue Jan 1, 2008 6:51 pm

Haslem would be a decent fit for GS, if the Warriors were willing to take the luxury tax hit next year (which they probably aren't).

However, there is absolutely no chance that GS trades away Wright to get Haslem.

Replace Wright with O'Bryant and have GS give a 2nd rather that get one is as much as GS would give up even if they were willing to pay the luxury tax next year.
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Post#6 » by lakerhater » Tue Jan 1, 2008 6:53 pm

Smills91 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



With such an up-tempo long range bombing swaud...Haslem is a GREAT fit. His ability to run the floor, REBOUND the basketball and hit the mid-range J is a perfect fit. The mid-range J opens up cuts to the basketball for when the long ball in unavailable. I don't understand where you think a 'mid-range' game hinders a team that relies on long-distance shooting coupled with attacking the rim. He's an IDEAL fit at PF due to his strong knack for grabbing rebounds and giving the Warriors additional possessions.


All I can say is you watch the Warriors often enough to have POB listed before Mbenga. That tells me you don't watch the Warriors very often.
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Post#7 » by lakerhater » Tue Jan 1, 2008 6:54 pm

Croshere at SF?
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Post#8 » by BBallFreak » Tue Jan 1, 2008 6:59 pm

Golden State gets crushed in this deal. For Miami, I'd obviously do it, but Sacramento robs the Warriors. Their's no way they come away with a huge TPE, expiring contracts, and Wright while dumping Kenny Thomas and Mike Bibby.
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Post#9 » by Smills91 » Tue Jan 1, 2008 7:00 pm

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All I can say is you watch the Warriors often enough to have POB listed before Mbenga. That tells me you don't watch the Warriors very often.


I watch the warriors enough to know Mbenga could be cut any given day....and that Harrington sees many of the back-up C minutes.
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Post#10 » by lakerhater » Tue Jan 1, 2008 7:04 pm

Harrington also starts at center sometimes. Mbenga gets minutes before POB. Croshere basically only plays center for the Warriors. Interestingly enough both Harrington and Croshere stretch a defense, I wonder if that's the reason Nellie plays them at those positions when they're under-sized?
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Post#11 » by lakerhater » Tue Jan 1, 2008 7:06 pm

I can't see Nellie changing his system to fit Haslem. He'd continue to play Barnes at PF before he'd put in someone that slows the team down and can't stretch the defense.
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Post#12 » by gsw5 » Tue Jan 1, 2008 7:10 pm

How does sac shed 2 bad contracts while picking up the 9th pick in last years draft by only giving up a fringe prospect?
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Post#13 » by loserX » Tue Jan 1, 2008 7:15 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Golden State gets crushed in this deal. For Miami, I'd obviously do it, but Sacramento robs the Warriors. Their's no way they come away with a huge TPE, expiring contracts, and Wright while dumping Kenny Thomas and Mike Bibby.


Spot on. Come on now, Smills. The Kings end up saving $43.7M (PLUS any lux tax considerations next year), including $15.3M savings THIS year, AND get a lotto-level pick in Wright?

No chance. None, especially if it's the Warriors you're ripping off. I've said before, and I'll say again...if KT is the ballast on Bibby, you might get expirings back. MAYBE. (Move Bibby without KT, and you might get a young asset or two as well. Adding KT for expirings means you give at least that asset back.)

Here, you get BETTER than expirings, AND turn Douby (who will have little worth to the Warriors with all their scoring guards already) into Brandan Wright. Completely preposterous.
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Post#14 » by old rem » Tue Jan 1, 2008 7:21 pm

turk3d wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Right now we're very happy with Harrington at the 4 (last night 16 points 11 rebounds) and we see Brandon Wright as his future replacement. You'd do better in trying to get Harrington for UD, plus we have no interest in taking on any more salary (via TPE).


Not gonna value Haslem as = lotto pick,won't want to waste $9 mill on a 3rd string PG,don't have the spot or minutes for Douby,so I doubt GSW does this.

I could see GSW taking in a SMALL deal with TPE,under $4 mill if there's a clear plus to the whole deal,but here,that's not quite the case. This DOES make GSW a bit better this season. A Haslem type ,assuming Nellie uses him-adds balance. My ongoing bitch is--however-a bit too much SHORT view on personell and we're a bit too anal on the $$$ stuff. I'm looking at the reality that Nellie is not long term....but Wright can be.

The GSW front office..Old Rem...Nellie....each have some issues with this,and not the same ones. But it probably adds up to GSW NOT doing it.
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