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Chicago / Memphis (Nocioni for Miller)

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 8:52 pm
by Cliff Levingston
This works in the checker but Cliff Levingston doesn't feel like re-creating it for a valid ID. You're welcome to do so though if you don't believe Cliff Levingston:

Memphis trades:
- Mike Miller
- Andre Brown
- Casey Jacobsen
Chicago trades:
- Andres Nocioni
- Thabo Sefolosha
- Viktor Khryapa

Nocioni seemingly fits well into the uptempo style being played in Memphis with his shooting ability, hustle and ability to play the 3/4 positions. Thabo gives the young Grizzlies with another young player to develop at the 2 position who already plays great defense. Khryapa isn't anything special and is mostly just filler.

1. Stoudamire, Conley, Lowry
2. Gay, Navarro
3. Nocioni, Sefolosha, Cardinal
4. Gasol, Warrick
5. Milicic, Swift


The Bulls even out their roster a little, easing the jam in the front court with Nocioni's absence and receiving a guy who can start at the 2.

1. Hinrich, Duhon
2. Miller, Gordon, Jacobsen
3. Deng, Griffin
4. Smith, Thomas, Brown
5. Wallace, Noah, Gray

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:14 pm
by pardon_my_interruption
I'd do this from Memphis' perspective.

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:20 pm
by coldfish
Works for me. Miller can play the 3 some also to take up Nocioni's back up SF minutes.

For Chicago, this more than replaces Nocioni's scoring while freeing up frontcourt minutes for bigger players. Duhon, obviously, would be the big loser here with Kirk and Ben also losing a little court time, but oh well.

I actually really like this from a Chicago POV and I could very well see Memphis being interested also.

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:37 pm
by Cliff Levingston
coldfish wrote:Works for me. Miller can play the 3 some also to take up Nocioni's back up SF minutes.

For Chicago, this more than replaces Nocioni's scoring while freeing up frontcourt minutes for bigger players. Duhon, obviously, would be the big loser here with Kirk and Ben also losing a little court time, but oh well.

It doesn't appear that we'll be able to retain Duhon anyway; not if Deng and Gordon get much over $10 mil per year average contracts. Besdies, you know as well as Cliff Levingston that we need more scoring from any position we can get it, and this certainly accomplishes that.

Cliff Levingston sees plenty of minutes available for Gordon, Hinrich and Miller after this year. Something like:

1. Hinrich [36], Gordon [12]
2. Miller [24], Gordon [24]
3. Deng [36], Miller [12]

That's 36 minutes for all 4 guys in your regular rotation between the 3 positions.


coldfish wrote:I actually really like this from a Chicago POV and I could very well see Memphis being interested also.

If anything, Cliff Levingston sees Memphis as the ones turning this down.

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:46 pm
by pardon_my_interruption
No I like it because:

A) Nocioni is one of my favorite players in the league.

B) He's tough and plays with Heart. Something our team needs.

C) We don't lose anything from the perimeter as far as shooting.

D) We get a change even if minor.

E) Sefolosha/Khryapa have some upside whereas Jacobsen/Brown do not.

F) With Darko struggling it gives us another starter in our lineup.

Conley/Navarro/Gay/Nocioni/Gasol

With Swift/Warrick/Milicic off the bench.

Frees us up to deal Swift/Warrick in the offseason.

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:47 pm
by pardon_my_interruption
However some fans will lose it if Miller is traded before Gasol.

I'm not one of them though.

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 10:03 pm
by Cliff Levingston
Well PMI, lets get our GM's on the phone and get this sh*t done. :)

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 10:12 pm
by pardon_my_interruption
Lets do it. I can track down Chris Wallace. He's a man of the people. :-)

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 11:56 pm
by Friend_Of_Haley
Chicago loves this.

Then hopefully they can flip Duhon somewhere for a well protected pick or something since there aren't minutes for him.

Nocioni for a 2/3 like Miller (or some other similar players) just makes to much sense.