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luke walton (LAL) for james jones (POR)

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:35 am
by shagadelic45
the Blazers get their SF (cheap, good character, team player) and the Lakers some 3 pt. shooting and cap relief......

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:42 am
by Flash is the Future
Really really really bad for the Blazers.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:48 am
by ss1986v2
um, the blazers already have a surplus of SFs, james jones being one of them. how does this help them in that regard?

as far as the value goes, again, why does portland do this? james is having a better year in nearly every single statistical category compared to walton. jones career number are also better or comparable to waltons career numbers. and jones' contract is much more friendly than waltons. so why are they trading jones for walton again?

Re: luke walton (LAL) for james jones (POR)

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 2:46 am
by SabasRevenge!
shagadelic45 wrote:the Blazers get their SF (cheap, good character, team player) and the Lakers some 3 pt. shooting and cap relief......


One of the reasons the Blazers are clicking so well is James Jones. The guy has been solid on both ends of the floor for us this year. He's leading the L in 3p% and playing a lot of meaningful minutes. Seeing him play every night, his D is much better than advertised and he's a great crunch time player. He's a rock from the FT line and a rock from beyond the arc. He's a great fit for this team.

James Jones will make about 3 million this year and next. Luke Walton will make 4 million this year, topping out at 6.1 in 2013??? No thanks.

Jones is shooting a MUCH higher percentage from the field, 3, and the line. He can rebound the ball well, and he's the same age as Walton.

I see a player like Walton getting lost in Portland because he's a guy who does a lot of things alright, but he isn't exceptional at anything. Travis is the scoring 3/4 off the bench, Martell is an athletic and growing shooter who starts, and Jones is a dead-eye shooter and all around contributor off the bench.

Besides, why mess with a good thing? These guys are meshing so well. Unless a trade brings in a significant upgrade, I don't see Pritchard making any trades before around draft day.

Re: luke walton (LAL) for james jones (POR)

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:56 am
by breaker91
shagadelic45 wrote:the Blazers get their SF (cheap, good character, team player)


We already have two guys who play that role in Webster and Jones. Each of which makes 75% of Walton's salary and aren't committed for the several years. :nonono:

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 3:59 am
by shrink
Luke Walton is BYC. Doing this deal straight up has it fail financially for both teams.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:21 am
by wezbo
lakers pass

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:30 am
by Spykes
Flash is the Future wrote:Really really really bad for the Blazers.


'Nuff said.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:31 am
by TMACFORMVP
Yeah no need to trade a guy that's outproducing another on a much better contract.

It's not THAT bad though IMO.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:23 am
by mistatwo mayn
James Jones = Vlad - crappy play - contract

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:47 am
by SabasRevenge!
wezbo wrote:lakers pass


There was bound to be at least one! While I don't think Walton will be worth the 6 mil they'll be paying him in 2013, maybe he'll be a solid piece off the bench with Ariza starting.


mistatwo mayn wrote:James Jones = Vlad - crappy play - contract


Since when is 3 million a year, expiring in '09 a crappy contract? Crappy play = a solid .514/.550/.865 off the bench?

Were you talking about Radman? He may fit the "crappy" criteria a bit more.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:10 am
by breaker91
mistatwo mayn wrote:James Jones = Vlad - crappy play - contract


Talk about your fuzzy math. I think the better way to say it is Jones > Walton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Vlad.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:31 am
by Cowology
Maybe I'm all alone in this...but I think Walton is better than Jones. He's not as good a shooter, but I like his versatility and passing ability.

Anyway, I reckon both teams probably decline this deal.