what would u give for diop?????

Rand10 · Post #41 » by **Rand10** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:20 am

thaAteam wrote:so what about diop for jr smith straight up and the mavs try to sign pj brown or c webb again. jr smith if he could stay outta trouble would be an excellent fit in dallas as a starting two on a great young core of guys

I don't really like jr too much. He's a good shooter, but we need someone that will play defense and do the little things besides score. I feel the same way about McCants. He's got some value, he's just not a great fit.

thaAteam · Post #42 » by **thaAteam** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:22 am

jess 12 overrates all mavs players, its obvious he never watches basketball, he probably thinks finley still a mav lol, and no way in hell would dallas want any piece of ben wallace and his terrible contracts, we aint the knicks

JES12 · Post #43 » by **JES12** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:34 am

thaAteam wrote:jess 12 overrates all mavs players, its obvious he never watches basketball, he probably thinks finley still a mav lol, and no way in hell would dallas want any piece of ben wallace and his terrible contracts, we aint the knicks

That is so funny. I can remember 10 games ago whereas you have more mood swings than my girlfriend on her rag.

I don't over-react and do STUPID trades because of playing time in the last 2-3 games.

Oh, and if that other trade was just salary, there is Ager, I'm not stupid enough to believe Barea was only in for "salary."

thaAteam · Post #44 » by **thaAteam** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:35 am

dallas trades
gana diop
jj barea
08 2nd round pick

dallas gets
andray blatche
dominic mcguire

wizards trade
andray blatche
dominic mcguire

wiz get
gana diop
jj barea
2nd rd pick

Flash is the Future · Post #45 » by **Flash is the Future** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:39 am

Shaq for KVH+Diop.

thaAteam · Post #46 » by **thaAteam** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:53 am

i doubt u have a girlfriend thats capable of having a rag, i never knew blow up dolls had cycles. diop is a decent player with height, all he can do is block shots, hes a terrible rebounder who can finish or score

JES12 · Post #47 » by **JES12** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:12 am

thaAteam wrote:hes a terrible rebounder who can finish or score

Yet he is the 2nd best rebounder mentioned on this thread at 5.3 with just 17.9 min. 1st being Evans who barley edges him out at a much higher cost contract wise. Yes, better rebounder than than Wallace, Shaq and Blatche.

Post #48 » by **DDansby123** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:16 am

Flash is the Future wrote:Shaq for KVH+Diop.

If he's healthy enough to give us 20-24 MPG in the playoffs, hell yes.

Rand10 · Post #49 » by **Rand10** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:38 am

JES12 wrote:Oh, and if that other trade was just salary, there is Ager, I'm not stupid enough to believe Barea was only in for "salary."

What???? It needed a minimum salary player to work and Toronto is down a point guard. Who would you have picked?

But maybe you're right. How dare someone put the almighty Barea in a trade! :crazy:

JES12 · Post #50 » by **JES12** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:43 am

mavfan33 wrote:What???? It needed a minimum salary player to work and Toronto is down a point guard. Who would you have picked?

But maybe you're right. How dare someone put the almighty Barea in a trade!

Okay, whatever the reasoning. I still think we are better off standing pat.

Darren · Post #51 » by **Darren** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:31 pm

shrink wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a raw, defense-oriented center in MIN, but I wouldn't give up a lottery pick player like McCants for a guy that DAL is going to lose anyway to free agency. Or am I incorrect? What rights transfer to a team trading for Diop?

Maybe Doleac + MIN 2nd for Diop and Ager, Gerald Green for a DAL TPE.

Who's McCants at all? Never heard about him. Sounds like a bust or so-so player. Desagana Diop is still a top blocker per minutes in the league. And he's drafted 8th overall. He's bench intentionally for experiment purpose. Avery is figuring out the best rate to use Damp, Diop, and Bass.

Darren · Post #52 » by **Darren** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:38 pm

I just think about this one. How does it sound?

Dallas gets:
Darko Milicic
7-0 C from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
6.6 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 25.0 minutes

Memphis gets:
DeSagana Diop
7-0 C from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
3.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 17.9 minutes

Trenton Hassell
6-5 SG from Austin Peay
2.3 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.7 apg in 14.1 minutes

2009 first round pick

shrink · Post #53 » by **shrink** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:45 pm

I'll give part of the MLE for him.

... when he's a free agent in five months.

JES12 · Post #54 » by **JES12** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:09 pm

Darren wrote:I just think about this one. How does it sound?

Dallas gets:
Darko Milicic
7-0 C from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
6.6 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 25.0 minutes

Memphis gets:
DeSagana Diop
7-0 C from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
3.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 17.9 minutes

Trenton Hassell
6-5 SG from Austin Peay
2.3 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.7 apg in 14.1 minutes

2009 first round pick

I'f definatly do that, but I doubt Memphis wants any part of Hassell.

JES12 · Post #55 » by **JES12** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:27 pm

shrink wrote:I'll give part of the MLE for him.

... when he's a free agent in five months.

You underestimate what he is going to get. If he leaves the mavs, it will be to some team offering full MLE.

deeney0 · Post #56 » by **deeney0** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:09 pm

Diop is going to command full MLE, minimum, and will have several suiters at that price. Too bad his timing is off; in 2009, when many more teams are likely to be under the cap, Diop is the kind of guy who somehow ends up with an 8 figure deal.

shrink · Post #57 » by **shrink** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:12 pm

Seventh season. 3.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 17.9 minutes

::shrug::

Rand10 · Post #58 » by **Rand10** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:25 pm

shrink wrote:Seventh season. 3.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.5 apg in 17.9 minutes

::shrug::

Before Dampier came back. 5.7 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 2.7 bpg in 29 minutes.

I don't know that he'll get full MLE, but he's only 25 and could pretty easily improve on those numbers if he was given a consistent starting job.

deeney0 · Post #59 » by **deeney0** » Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:30 pm

25 years old. 7 feet tall. Those are the numbers that matter. And no one is asking him for any offense - he'd be getting 12-14 ppg just on dunks in a system like Phoenix. Look at the kinds of deals other young big men have gotten. Diop will get full MLE, minimum.