Tor-Houston-Sac

[ajmal]

I do not know if this will work in the trade checker but i was thinking something along the lines of..

Battier to Toronto from Houston

John Salmons to Houston

Carlos Delfino (+filler to match contracts) along with 2009 first round pick protected to Sacramento

[ajmal]

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Houston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +8.1 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and +1.7 apg.
Incoming Players
   John Salmons
6-6 SG from Miami-Fla.
16.7 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 3.2 apg in 35.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
   Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
8.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.5 apg in 35.1 minutes
 
Toronto Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -8.0 ppg, -2.1 rpg, and -3.5 apg.
Incoming Players
   Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
8.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.5 apg in 35.1 minutes
Outgoing Players
   Darrick Martin
5-11 PG from UCLA
2.1 ppg, 0.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 10.3 minutes
   Carlos Delfino
6-6 SF from Argentina (Foreign)
9.2 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.7 apg in 25.4 minutes
   Juan Dixon
6-3 PG from Maryland
5.3 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.5 apg in 12.7 minutes
 
Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -0.1 ppg, +1.9 rpg, and +1.8 apg.
Incoming Players
   Darrick Martin
5-11 PG from UCLA
2.1 ppg, 0.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 10.3 minutes
   Carlos Delfino
6-6 SF from Argentina (Foreign)
9.2 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.7 apg in 25.4 minutes
   Juan Dixon
6-3 PG from Maryland
5.3 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.5 apg in 12.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
   John Salmons
6-6 SG from Miami-Fla.
16.7 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 3.2 apg in 35.8 minutes

Something along the lines of this with a first rounder going from toronto to Sacramento.

[Baller 24]

Houston says yes.

[ajmal]

Houston says yes.

would houston says yes if they also send a draft pick or some type of incentive to Sacramento?

[Bac2Basics]

Kings likely pass

[miruss2001]

If I can offer a tweak on the deal... would Sacramento be interested in Anthony Parker instead of Delfino? In other words

To Houston: Salmons
To Toronto: Battier
To Sacramento: Parker, Graham

[RoxFan08]

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would houston says yes if they also send a draft pick or some type of incentive to Sacramento?

Probably not. We generally feel Battier has pretty decent value. I'd rather have Artest than Salmons in a Battier trade, though.

[ecuhus1981]

SAC cuts TOR out of this trade IMO.

[ajmal]

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Probably not. We generally feel Battier has pretty decent value. I'd rather have Artest than Salmons in a Battier trade, though.

I do not know why you would prefer Artest... but have you seen what Salmons is doing this year? Houston needs another scoring threat that can actually run plays. Salmons can handle the ball and can create for himself. This would create good Chemistry between the "big three" and that third scoring punch.

For Toronto, they get the defensive player they are looking for that can hit the open shot. They give up the a ball handler and one of the few that can create a shot for themselves on that team, but they need a defensive presence on the wings due to week C,PF defenders.

Sacramento does this to shed some salary, along with rebuilding with draft pick(s). John is 28 years old (prime) but Sactown is not going anywhere until Bibby, Miller, and Thomas are gone. They get Delfino who's per 40 minute stat is about 15 points , almost 8 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 steals a game (comparable to salmons but is 3 years younger).

[ajmal]

SAC cuts TOR out of this trade IMO.

considering Sacramento wants to go younger i would presume they want decent youth and draft picks.

[ecuhus1981]

Sure, they're looking to build around Martin. But when you have the choice between Battier and a TOR pupu platter of Delfino/Dixon/Martin...

[ajmal]

Sure, they're looking to build around Martin. But when you have the choice between Battier and a TOR pupu platter of Delfino/Dixon/Martin...

considering that Martin can be released (non guaranteed contract), Dixon is expiring. Plus would you prefer a 1st round pick from Toronto or Houston?

Delfino is no slouch either. His Per 40 minutes is very comparable to John. An eFG of almost 50 percent along with 40 percent three point shooting a TS% of 51 percent

[KF10]

We are not trading away Salmons... He is an important piece for the Kings... Just cut the Kings out...

[ecuhus1981]

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considering that Martin can be released (non guaranteed contract), Dixon is expiring. Plus would you prefer a 1st round pick from Toronto or Houston?

Huh? If you're trying to say TOR's pick would be better than HOU's, you are horribly mistaken.

TOR is 17-15, while HOU is 15-17. I'm pretty sure that TOR will make the playoffs this year, while the Rockets would have to vault Golden State and Utah in order to see the postseason.

[Baller 24]

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Probably not. We generally feel Battier has pretty decent value. I'd rather have Artest than Salmons in a Battier trade, though.

Salmons is shooting great this season, he plays excellent defense. And he knows how to distribute the ball.

[ajmal]

We are not trading away Salmons... He is an important piece for the Kings... Just cut the Kings out...

That is what i thought too but if the Kings are rebuilding, they are not going to do anything until Brad Miller's contract is done along with Kenny Thomas. By that time Salmons will be in his 30's while Delfino will be in his prime. For the next 3 years Kenny Thomas and Miller will be making a combined salary of 21 million a year.

[ajmal]

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Huh? If you're trying to say TOR's pick would be better than HOU's, you are horribly mistaken.

TOR is 17-15, while HOU is 15-17. I'm pretty sure that TOR will make the playoffs this year, while the Rockets would have to vault Golden State and Utah in order to see the postseason.

True but do you honestly think Rockets are gonna have a worst record then the raptors? That would be a travesty.

[KF10]

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That is what i thought too but if the Kings are rebuilding, they are not going to do anything until Brad Miller's contract is done along with Kenny Thomas. By that time Salmons will be in his 30's while Delfino will be in his prime. For the next 3 years Kenny Thomas and Miller will be making a combined salary of 21 million a year.

Regardless, Salmons is worth more then the proposed package... Salmons is playing his best ball in his career...(17/5/3/1.5 50%FG 46% 3FG)

[TMACFORMVP]

Yeah Salmons has been fantastic this season, scoring at a high rate on tremendous percentages. Worth far more than Delfino IMO.

[ajmal]

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Regardless, Salmons is worth more then the proposed package... Salmons is playing his best ball in his career...(17/5/3/1.5 50%FG 46% 3FG)

he better be putting up career stats at this age. Would you not prefer 2 first rounders and a guy putting up comparable stats and defense three years younger?