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CHI/ORL

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:33 pm
by Cliff Levingston
Trade ID #4393465

Bulls trade:
- Andres Nocioni
- Chris Duhon

Magic trade:
- Keyon Dooling
- J.J. Redick
- Pat Garrity


The Magic look to be a much improved team this season and this could help them further improve. Duhon gives them a solid backup PG who excels at taking care of the ball, playing great perimeter defense and setting up his teammates. At the very least, he's expiring. Nocioni provides the Magic with a great option off the bench similar to Lewis and Turkoglu as a 3/4 type of guy who can shoot and rebound the ball well.

1. Nelson, Duhon, Arroyo
2. Bogans, Evans
3. Lewis, Nocioni
4. Turkoglu, Cook, Gortat, Augustine
5. Howard, Battie, Foyle


The Bulls accomplish a few things with this: cut salary (to ensure we retain Gordon/Deng), clear PT for the young guys in the front court and get some help in the back court. Dooling is a nice offensive player who can get into the lane and make things happen. He either takes Duhon's starting spot or fills the role of instant offense off the bench. Redick would fit in well as a shooting guard here due to how our shooting guard position is typically used (either working off screen for open shots or spreading the floor for the pick and roll/post up). Garrity wouldn't be used but is expiring filler.

This clears room for Thabo at the 3 and Noah/Thomas at the 4.

1. Hinrich, Gordon
2. Dooling, Redick, Griffin
3. Deng, Sefolosha, Khryapa
4. Smith, Thomas, Garrity
5. Wallace, Noah, Gray

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:34 pm
by dflaschberger
not enough cliff-noc is worth more than this and duhon still has value

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:37 pm
by SOUL
I think we'd do it.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:52 pm
by Paxson
NO! We may need to clear up minutes, but you don't do it that way.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:53 pm
by DanTown8587
Orlando can't take on Nocioni's contract just to have a better bench.

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 8:53 pm
by Cliff Levingston
Cliff Levingston was thinking about adding the rights to Vazquez as well. Would that be acceptable to Magic fans?

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:06 pm
by MagicFan149
if adding vazquez's rights would make chicago do this go for it ... i like this trade... nocioni is one of those guys you hate on someone elses team but love on youres

does chi. need expirings that bad?

Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:19 pm
by Cliff Levingston
MagicFan149 wrote:does chi. need expirings that bad?

No. But ICLO, the Bulls don't need Nocioni that bad... not when it's costing Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah playing time.

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2008 1:38 am
by DiplomaticMagic
I would like to acquire Nocioni. And this is a GREAT deal for us. But I seriously doubt Chicago is this desperate. I'll definetly give-up more reasonable offers of if you guys want to keep Duhon. I'm for it

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:49 pm
by MagicFan149
its a done deal lets get nocioni in a magic uni

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2008 5:53 pm
by Cliff Levingston
DiplomaticMagic wrote:I would like to acquire Nocioni. And this is a GREAT deal for us. But I seriously doubt Chicago is this desperate. I'll definetly give-up more reasonable offers of if you guys want to keep Duhon. I'm for it

OF course we're not this desperate and Paxson would never make the deal in reality, but we'd end up a better team because of it.

Cliff Levingston takes it that the Magic would probably be willing to throw in Fran Vazquez and/or a first round pick this year?

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 2:45 am
by DiplomaticMagic
Cliff Levingston wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


OF course we're not this desperate and Paxson would never make the deal in reality, but we'd end up a better team because of it.

Cliff Levingston takes it that the Magic would probably be willing to throw in Fran Vazquez and/or a first round pick this year?


Yes.

Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 3:43 am
by risktaker91
I don't think the Bulls would do that...