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Posted it on the Bucks board, and was wondering what everyone else thought.

I never really understood why the 6ers why chose Young because he plays the position of their best player. Right now they have Reggie Evans as their starter, and CV could come in be the starter for them. CV IMO is a perfect fit for them. Next to an elite shotblocker and a SF who can defend. CV can score at will given the opportunity.

With Young the Bucks get a guy with crazy athleticism and tons of upside. From what I recall the Bucks were pretty high on him. His draft profile.

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Right now we have the worst SF platoon in the NBA, and Young could be the long term answer.

Thoughts?

Philly still has to figure out what Young can do, which I think is develop into Philly's best player, easy no from them. Offer Charlie V for something in Toronto instead, we wouldn't mind having him back at all.

as a bucks fan i love the idea of bringing young i think he would be a perfect fit for us at the sf

CV is too soft. He has the height of a PF, but not the game. Dalembert would not Improve playing next to him. Thad's ceiling is way higher. CV can score, but his FG % is not great. And he has been dealt twice already, and the Bucks have been looking to get rid of him all year now cause they guaranteed Ji the PT. I'd rather have Brand. He's an All Star player, who plays Defense, and gets his points in the paint, and commands double teams. CV will never do that.

joey-A wrote:CV is too soft. He has the height of a PF, but not the game. Dalembert would not Improve playing next to him. Thad's ceiling is way higher. CV can score, but his FG % is not great. And he has been dealt twice already, and the Bucks have been looking to get rid of him all year now cause they guaranteed Ji the PT. I'd rather have Brand. He's an All Star player, who plays Defense, and gets his points in the paint, and commands double teams. CV will never do that.

You should be a GM with such astute observations as this one above.

What's next? Are you going to proclaim that you'd rather have Dwight Howard over Dalembert?

Youngblood wrote:Philly still has to figure out what Young can do, which I think is develop into Philly's best player, easy no from them. Offer Charlie V for something in Toronto instead, we wouldn't mind having him back at all.

Young is right. Sixers laugh at this offer. Young has looked great when he has gotten the burn. We would have done Korver for CV but now that ship has sailed.

Where do the 76ers stand with Carney?

Where do the 76ers stand with Carney?

Sixers pass easy on this one. Young has amazing potential (I really wanted us to trade up for him) and if Stefanski really wants to emphasize athleticism, he's a perfect fit.

Senor Bogut wrote:Where do the 76ers stand with Carney?

I would think that CV for Carney would be much more palatable for the 76ers.

gswhoops wrote:Sixers pass easy on this one. Young has amazing potential (I really wanted us to trade up for him) and if Stefanski really wants to emphasize athleticism, he's a perfect fit.

Amen.

IMO Young is too much for CV and Carney is way, way too little.

Carney has very little value at this point. CV may not have a ton but he's at least shown a ton of flashes (48 point game, numerous 20/10 games etc).

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I would think that CV for Carney would be much more palatable for the 76ers.

definitly. Id add our 08 second as well

Simulack wrote:IMO Young is too much for CV and Carney is way, way too little.

Carney has very little value at this point. CV may not have a ton but he's at least shown a ton of flashes (48 point game, numerous 20/10 games etc).

Agreed. Villanueva has at least shown he is capable of starting in the NBA. Carney has shown nothing.

joey-A wrote:CV is too soft. He has the height of a PF, but not the game. Dalembert would not Improve playing next to him. Thad's ceiling is way higher. CV can score, but his FG % is not great. And he has been dealt twice already, and the Bucks have been looking to get rid of him all year now cause they guaranteed Ji the PT. I'd rather have Brand. He's an All Star player, who plays Defense, and gets his points in the paint, and commands double teams. CV will never do that.

Right on. CV is an overrated PF who the fans would hate in Philadelphia. He plays no defense that I can see. You are right that Dalembert would not fit well with him. Young is a better prospect IMO.

Young looks okay. A year from now, he'll be in the same boat as Carney and IggyTheBeast will be declaring their #10-14 pick untouchable.

The proposal is not atrocious. If I was Philly I would probably pass just because CV has fallen off big time. I think a change of scenary could really help his career so I hope he's shipped out.

positivetension wrote:The proposal is not atrocious. If I was Philly I would probably pass just because CV has fallen off big time. .

I don't think CV has really fallen off. He has the same strengths and weaknesses he has always had. He's a very skilled offensive player who has too much of a tendency to play on the perimeter, a solid rebounder, an atrocious defender and a guy who has had questions surrounding his dedication/mental game since he thought about coming to the NBA from HS. The "falling off" the last two years has been due to injury the previous season and the Bucks drafting and committing to Yi this year. CV's game or skills have not deteriorated at all. Given time, he would most likely do what he did in Toronto: play inconsistently but occasionally have that monster 25/10 type game. This year he just isn't getting consistent playing time.

I value him more than most Bucks fans, I think. Its very, very likely he's nothing more than a constant tease the rest of his career like Tim Thomas was but he's at least got the potential to be more.. he's the kind of guy I'd try to steal for cheap if I was another team's GM.

Still not worth Young though. I actually had Young ranked above Brewer in terms of my preferences when the Bucks were drafting. Coming out of high school, many had him ranked right up there with Durant as a prospect.

joey-A wrote:CV is too soft. He has the height of a PF, but not the game. Dalembert would not Improve playing next to him. Thad's ceiling is way higher. CV can score, but his FG % is not great. And he has been dealt twice already, and the Bucks have been looking to get rid of him all year now cause they guaranteed Ji the PT. I'd rather have Brand. He's an All Star player, who plays Defense, and gets his points in the paint, and commands double teams. CV will never do that.

Did I miss something?

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Young is right. Sixers laugh at this offer. Young has looked great when he has gotten the burn. We would have done Korver for CV but now that ship has sailed.

Laugh? You do realize you have Reggie Evans as your starting PF? I can understand if they turned down the offer, but I'm not sure how much more you could get for Young.

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Laugh? You do realize you have Reggie Evans as your starting PF? I can understand if they turned down the offer, but I'm not sure how much more you could get for Young.

They don't want anything for Young. They want Young. He's an already productive long-term project with a good amount of potential. Unless they think really highly of CV, which they shouldn't, they just say no.