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MN and NY
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 1:36 am
by shagadelic45
Minnesota Timberwolves
Incoming Players
Stephon Marbury
Salary: $19,012,500 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.7 REB: 2.2 AST: 4.5 PER: 14.65
Eddy Curry
Salary: $8,947,543 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 14.5 REB: 5.3 AST: 0.6 PER: 16.01
Fred Jones
Salary: $3,300,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 6.1 REB: 2.2 AST: 2.1 PER: 10.63
Outgoing Players: Greg Buckner, Theo Ratliff, Antoine Walker, Marko Jaric
New York Knicks
Incoming Players
Greg Buckner
Salary: $3,750,746 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.1 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.7 PER: 7.74
Theo Ratliff
Salary: $11,666,666 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.2 REB: 4.5 AST: 0.8 PER: 13.75
Antoine Walker
Salary: $8,329,640 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 9.8 REB: 4.0 AST: 1.1 PER: 13.49
Marko Jaric
Salary: $6,050,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 9.0 REB: 2.5 AST: 4.2 PER: 12.82
Outgoing Players: Stephon Marbury, Eddy Curry, Fred Jones
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 1:37 am
by #1knickfan
Jesus Christ will someone please keep this guy away from the Trade Checker. God almight.
Re: MN and NY
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 2:21 am
by Basti
shagadelic45 wrote:Minnesota Timberwolves
Incoming Players
Stephon Marbury
Salary: $19,012,500 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.7 REB: 2.2 AST: 4.5 PER: 14.65
Eddy Curry
Salary: $8,947,543 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 14.5 REB: 5.3 AST: 0.6 PER: 16.01
Fred Jones
Salary: $3,300,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 6.1 REB: 2.2 AST: 2.1 PER: 10.63
Outgoing Players: Greg Buckner, Theo Ratliff, Antoine Walker, Marko Jaric
New York Knicks
Incoming Players
Greg Buckner
Salary: $3,750,746 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 5.1 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.7 PER: 7.74
Theo Ratliff
Salary: $11,666,666 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.2 REB: 4.5 AST: 0.8 PER: 13.75
Antoine Walker
Salary: $8,329,640 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 9.8 REB: 4.0 AST: 1.1 PER: 13.49
Marko Jaric
Salary: $6,050,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 9.0 REB: 2.5 AST: 4.2 PER: 12.82
Outgoing Players: Stephon Marbury, Eddy Curry, Fred Jones
wtf??? what are we supposed to do with starbury and eddy curry???
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 2:27 am
by Nolan
Minnt wants nothing to do with the Knicks garbage.
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 3:25 am
by deeney0
Stop trying to send Theo to the Knicks. Please.
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 3:35 am
by raps4life~
deeney0 wrote:Stop trying to send Theo to the Knicks. Please.
why? hes such a perfect fit for that team.
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 3:40 am
by deeney0
Because trades need both partisipants to agree, and the Knicks have nothing that would entice the Wolves to move Theo. They can't realistically move Theo for non-expirings and stay under the lux, and there's no way Glen Taylor is going to let a 15ish win team go over the lux.
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 3:41 am
by shrink
The wolves CANNOT trade Theo Ratliff and have any chance of signing their players and picks next year without going into the lux.
If a deal contains Theo Ratliff, it might as well contain Gomes, Craig Smith and Telfair. However, I think if you're looking at MIN's most untradable, the list goes:
1. Al Jefferson
2. Randy Foye
3. Theo Ratliff
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 3:42 am
by risktaker91
This makes no sense for either team. So is Minny now trying to contend with Marbury and Curry on board?
They're in a rebuilding stage...
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:12 am
by dunkonu21
Eddie Curry sucks...
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:13 am
by dunkonu21
shrink wrote:The wolves CANNOT trade Theo Ratliff and have any chance of signing their players and picks next year without going into the lux.
If a deal contains Theo Ratliff, it might as well contain Gomes, Craig Smith and Telfair. However, I think if you're looking at MIN's most untradable, the list goes:
1. Al Jefferson
2. Randy Foye
3. Corey Brewer
4. Theo Ratliff
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:24 am
by shrink
I thought about Corey and almost put him in as a tie. Ratliff's expiring is so big, it gives the wolves tremendous flexibility, which could affect several young players. I think most would Wolves fans would agree with you, but I might have Glen Taylor on my side.
Re: MN and NY
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:42 am
by moocow007
the_incredible_basti wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
wtf??? what are we supposed to do with starbury and eddy curry???
What are the Knicks supposed to do with those players? Wipe their rears with them? Lose more games than there are left? What?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:43 am
by moocow007
dunkonu21 wrote:Eddie Curry sucks...
And that package NY gets is just studly.
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 1:28 pm
by shagadelic45
after this year, MN would have $ obligated to:
Marbury-Foye
McCants-Brewer
Jefferson
Curry-Madsen
..about $45 million...WAY under the luxury tax (even if you add in howard and hudson's buyouts). Yes they are rebuilding, and here they get their center of the future in Curry. And Marbs would be a $20 million expiring. Resign Gomes and Smith and maybe Telfair and you'd still right about the perceived lux tax of about $68 million. Don't see how that is all bad?
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 1:47 pm
by VintaGe36
Jefferson + Curry = Fringe playoff team AT BEST.
Jefferson at PF, although not bad on D, is hardly the stopper that you would need to pair Curry with.
Why does NY do this?
Just because its them!?!?!
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 3:26 pm
by shagadelic45
addition by subtractions, $ savings, chemistry/attitude improvements....
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:44 pm
by KyleCleric
McHale and the Wolves aren't looking for soft players like Curry or Marbury. Curry has no place in McHale's "plan". As for those saying that Theo won't be traded because then Gomes, Smith, and Telfair won't be re-signed well don't expect any of them being on the team next year or certainly not for more than 2 or 3 million each for 1 or 2 of them. McHale doesn't care about re-signing them only that his team will be in a good cap situation with Al Jefferson under contract 6 years.
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 4:52 pm
by hermes
Nolan wrote:Minnt wants nothing to do with the Knicks garbage.
mchale will only help out boston not the knicks
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:15 pm
by shrink
KyleCleric wrote: As for those saying that Theo won't be traded because then Gomes, Smith, and Telfair won't be re-signed well don't expect any of them being on the team next year or certainly not for more than 2 or 3 million each for 1 or 2 of them. McHale doesn't care about re-signing them only that his team will be in a good cap situation with Al Jefferson under contract 6 years.
Even if this was true, then Gomes, Craig Smith, Chris Richard (and maybe Telfair) should be traded, since they can help some other team this season.
However, even by his quotes two days ago, its obvious McHale is considering some of them. He's not so concerned with the losses as he is finding out what roles the young players can have with the future of the Wolves. All these guys continue to get playing time as this is being sorted out.
Next season will be tight under the lux, and its doubtful Glen Taylor will exceed it on a team so far from a ring. I think that these hard decisions are already starting, but won't be made until far later in the season.