Two Rebuilding Moves for Miami...

[pja123]

Trade no.1 (between Miami & Orlando)

Heat get:
Carlos Arroyo
Pat Garrity
Keyon Dooling
Brian Cook (once his trade restriction is relinquished on the 20th)

Magic get:
Ricky Davis
Mark Blount
Smush Parker

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR THE HEAT:
They remove Blount's contract while receiving a package of expiring deals. Cook is the only player they acquire with multiple years on his deal, but he's making a reasonable 2.5 mill a year.

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR THE MAGIC:
They bolster their depth and scoring on the perimeter with the addition of Davis. He would give Orlando another dimension in terms of offense due to his ability to get to the rim and slash to the basket. Blount adds size and stability to the frontline. He had a career year playing alongside Kevin Garnett, so maybe playing with Howard would re-invigorate his career. Parker would replace Arroyo as the backup PG.


Trade no.2 (between Miami & the Lakers)

Heat get:
Jordan Farmar
Sasha Vujajic
Kwame Brown

Lakers get:
Udonis Haslem
Jason Williams

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR THE HEAT:
They deal away to veteran role players but get back a promising young PG in Farmar and two more expiring deals.

WHY IT COULD WORK FOR THE LAKERS:
They get a hard working, defensively talented big man in Haslem. He'd be a great compliment to Bynum on the frontline. Williams would provide additional veteran experience to the backcourt.



NEW HEAT LINE-UP:
PG-Jordan Farmar/Carlos Arroyo/Chris Quinn
SG-Dwyane Wade/DeQuan Cook/Sasha Vujajic
SF-Dorrell Wright/Pat Garrity
PF-Kwame Brown/Brian Cook
C-Shaq O'Neal/Earl Barron

PLAYERS LEFT ON CONTRACT:
Shaq O'Neal: 20 million
Dwyane Wade: 10 million
Jordan Farmar: 1 million
Brian Cook: 2.5 million
DeQuan Cook: 1.5 million
2008 1st round pick: 3 million
ROUGH ESTIMATE: 38 million
POTENTIAL CAP SPACE (if cap is around 55 or 56 million): 18-19 million


POSSIBLE 2008-2009 HEAT ROSTER:

PG-Jordan Farmar
SG-Dwyane Wade
SF-Ron Artest (signed via free agency)
PF-Elton Brand (signed via free agency)
C-Shaquille O'Neal

[Spykes]

Initial reaction: Lakers give up too much in that 2nd deal imo.

[Bac2Basics]

It's unlikely that Miami would have enough cap space there to sign both Artest & Brand unless those were the only 2 signings they made in that offseason because both will likely command in the neighborhood of $10 Million+ each.

[joey-A]

At this point I highly doubt the Heat make any serious changes. I mean it's clear that anything they do will not make a difference for this season, which is now a lost cause. So why sacrafice players who will reduce their payroll for players who have longer salaries, and who won't make any difference except to maybe take them out of a better lottery chance ? At this point I see them staying status Quo, and then try to hope they get lucky in the lotto, and land a Rose, Beasley, or someone else.

[Hoops23]

I like trade 1 for Miami.

Trade 2 is like expiring for expiring and Haslem for Farmar & Vujacic (res Freeagent). I think Miami will pass with this because Haslem is not worth trading for Farmar.

What the Heat need to add is a PG, SF & a reserve PF. The rebuilding should start this season by trading one of their expiring contract without giving Cook & Dorell for one the position I mentioned, then get the other positions through the draft and by using the full MLE. By the trade deadline I'm sure there are teams like the Sonics who wants to dump one of their PGs.

[Smills91]

Initial reaction: Lakers give up too much in that 2nd deal imo.

They do??? Last time I checked, Udonis Haslem was EASILY the best player in that deal.

[D' Winner Within]

I strongly believe Miami will not make a move just for this season alone because it doesn

[youngcrev]

How does 18-19 million in cap space equate to signing Artest AND Brand?

[shrink]

I have been working on a similar deal with your first one, and have the Heat sending out those exact same three players, to get back mostly expirings. I think Davis and Blount are a better fit in ORL, but I don't think that Davis brings so much value that they can get any team to pay the last $16.5 mil on Blount's deal. I posted the following on the MIN boards 90 minutes prior. Great minds think alike, I guess.

MIN GIVES: Jaric + Craig Smith
MIN GETS: Battie + Smush + MIA 2010 (lottery protected)

ORL GIVES: Garrity + Foyle + Battie + J.J. Redick + Dooling + Arroyo
ORL GETS: Ricky Davis + Craig Smith + Blount + Jaric

MIA GIVES: Ricky Davis + Blount + Smush + MIA 2010 (lottery protected)
MIA GETS: Arroyo + Foyle + Garrity + Dooling + JJ Reddick

Why for MIN: Battie can't produce now, but he may fit down the road and he's used to playing next to an impressive young PF. He's a year shorter than Jaric. Smith, who I like but doesn't fit with Al, becomes a future 1st.

Why for ORL: Win now. Ricky Davis becomes the starting SG they've lacked the whole season (Bogans a starter?!?). Blount's outside shooting helps Dwight Howard, and let's him play some PF. When he doesn't, Craig Smith can play PF and let Rashard and Turkoglu play their more natural SF position. And Jaric would match well along with Jameer, and play some back-up 2. Only MIN would consider providing production for the injured Battie. Its a little hard financially, but they move some poorly productive salaries this year for production, and they fill all their team's holes, adding four players to their other four legit players. Maybe they sign a 3rd PG for the vet min, but for now...

Jameer, Jaric
Ricky, Jaric, Evans
Lewis, Turkoglu
Dwight Howard, Craig Smith, Cook
Blount, Dwight

Why for MIA: If they're rebuilding, a less productive expiring is worth the same as the productive Ricky Davis. This gives them some matches with an expiring PG (if they wish to deal Jason Williams) and an expiring center. Its not enough to move $14 mil more of Blount, but ORL is a place where his usefulness would be higher. They use a lottery-protected future pick (or else they could greatly reduce the protections on the pick they already owe us), but do clear JJ Reddick. Does MIA have any other incentive to offer to move Blount?

[schaffy]

Who gets the first, Min or Orl?

[shrink]

Who gets the first, Min or Orl?

Oops -- MIN, because their giving ORL Craig Smith.

Thanks for the head's up -- I edited it.

Incidently, its a similar deal to pja's, but I extended it because I felt that with ORL getting Blount for three years, they'd have even more incentive financially to get rid of the last two of Battie. Moreover, Jaric can be productive for them this year (Battie's out for the season), and Craig Smith can produce now for them too.

[schaffy]

I think MIA will like the cap savings for Blount. But Im not sure they want to give up draft picks. But I dont know what Heat fans actually think, thats just kind of a guess. Looks fair for Orlando and Minny (if the pick stays).

[youngcrev]

Shrink, where does JJ go in that deal?

[shrink]

I think MIA will like the cap savings for Blount. But Im not sure they want to give up draft picks. But I dont know what Heat fans actually think, thats just kind of a guess. Looks fair for Orlando and Minny (if the pick stays).

I think you're right that it'd be painful to part with that pick, but I don't think Ricky Davis alone has enough trade value to get a team to take on Blount's final two years. I don't know if they have something they could offer, but late picks occasionally get sold for $3 mil cash, and this deal saves them $16.5 mil and they get JJ Reddick, for whatever that's worth. I'm open to other ideas where MIA can add value in a less painful way.

[shrink]

Shrink, where does JJ go in that deal?

Dang it! Thanks again. I made a last minute value adjustment and I guess I only put half of it in the trade.

I double-checked and it's fixed now. Sorry about the mess ups .. I hate it when I do that.

[BBallFreak]

I'd do both of pja123's deals.

shrink's deal made me vomit. Now way in hell I'd deal a first rounder just to offload Blount to a team that could use him. I don't care what Minnesota gives, we're not getting it! Why would we give up a first rounder for it? The last thing you do in a rebuilding move is deal DRAFT PICKS!

shrink, you should know better. The incentive is Ricky and Mark and what they can do to help Orlando, NOT a first round draft pick...

[Hoops23]

I'd do both of pja123's deals.

You do trade no 2? Expiring for Expiring and Haslem for Farmar?

So ou think Haslem is worth Farmar and Vujacic.

[BBallFreak]

You do trade no 2? Expiring for Expiring and Haslem for Farmar?

So ou think Haslem is worth Farmar and Vujacic.

You're neglecting to mention the additional cap, and the fact that Farmar looks to be a longterm solution to our point guard situation, and a very good fit next to Wade.

[Hoops23]

Heat trade Haslem for cap space and then add his replacement this coming summer through the cap space they got in the trade? I'll rather have Haslem because there is no assurance we will get a good player out of the cap space. Shaq is no longer the free agent magnet he once was.

[BBallFreak]

Heat trade Haslem for cap space and then add his replacement this coming summer through the cap space they got in the trade? I'll rather have Haslem because there is no assurance we will get a good player out of the cap space. Shaq is no longer the free agent magnet he once was.

The Heat also add a longterm starter at the point.