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Orlando Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -0.5 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

Incoming Players

Reggie Evans 6-8 PF from Iowa
5.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.8 minutes

Andre Miller 6-2 PG from Utah
16.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 6.4 apg in 36.2 minutes

Outgoing Players

J.J. Redick 6-5 SG from Duke
3.4 ppg, 0.3 rpg, 0.4 apg in 8.9 minutes

Keith Bogans 6-4 SG from Kentucky
9.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.1 apg in 30.4 minutes

Pat Garrity 6-9 PF from Notre Dame
2.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 12.5 minutes

Carlos Arroyo 6-2 PG from Florida International
6.4 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 3.8 apg in 19.1 minutes

Unprotected 2008 1st round pick ( Orlando )

Why for Orlando: They lose alot of assets but gain a Starting PG in Miller and get Evans who gets rebounds but has a long contract


Milwaukee Trade Breakdown


Change in Team Outlook: +4.4 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and +5.6 apg.

Incoming Players

Keith Bogans 6-4 SG from Kentucky
9.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.1 apg in 30.4 minutes

Pat Garrity 6-9 PF from Notre Dame
2.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 12.5 minutes

Carlos Arroyo 6-2 PG from Florida International
6.4 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 3.8 apg in 19.1 minutes

Andre Iguodala 6-6 SG / SF from Arizona
18.9 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 4.5 apg in 39.1 minutes

Outgoing Players

2008 unprotected 1st round pick ( Bucks)

Charlie Villanueva 6-10 PF from Connecticut
9.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 20.2 minutes

Michael Redd 6-6 SG from Ohio State
23.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 3.8 apg in 38.1 minutes


Why for Bucks : AI2 is what there looking for as long they have plan to resign AI2 ( 11 to 12 mill ) they pull the trigger

Philadelphia Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: -3.9 ppg, -8.1 rpg, and -7.0 apg.

Incoming Players

J.J. Redick 6-5 SG from Duke
3.4 ppg, 0.3 rpg, 0.4 apg in 8.9 minutes

Charlie Villanueva 6-10 PF from Connecticut
9.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 20.2 minutes

Michael Redd 6-6 SG from Ohio State
23.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 3.8 apg in 38.1 minutes

2008 unprotected 1st round pick ( Orlando )
2008 Unprotected 1st Round pick ( Bucks )

Outgoing Players

Andre Iguodala 6-6 SG / SF from Arizona
18.9 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 4.5 apg in 39.1 minutes

Reggie Evans 6-8 PF from Iowa
5.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.8 minutes

Andre Miller 6-2 PG from Utah
16.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 6.4 apg in 36.2 minutes


Why for 76ers : They rid them selfs of bad contracts ( Miller , Evans ) but get a sharp shooting Star in Redd and PF of the Future Villanueva, Sharp shooting back up JJ and a 1st pick in the 20s

i like it for Orlando even though i'm not sure about the Miller thing, I think the Bucks do it, but I'm not sure I see Philly dropping AI2 and Miller...i have actually been sitting on an Orlando/Philly trade idea for over a week...i will probably post it...i just usually don't for fear of embarrassment

POST IT!!!

I'll defend it, no matter how good or bad.

Sixers say no.

Not trading Iguodala for Redd.

This would be a fantastic trade for the Bucks. They'd have a lineup of:

Miller
Mo
Iggy
Yi
Bogut

That's a better team than they are with Redd/CV now and definitely better in the future.


I see no reason for Philly to do it though. I'd be willing to throw the Bucks 2008 pick in there (with something like top-5 protection) if it made it any better for them.

Bucks say no, thats alot to give up for Redd, CV and a first unprotected. Orlando also doesnt need to pay point guards over 16 million a year.

Also, every Michael Redd trade i made gets ripped to shreds but Buck fans, then this trade is proposed and nothing?

DanTown8587 wrote:Also, every Michael Redd trade i made gets ripped to shreds but Buck fans, then this trade is proposed and nothing?

What is wrong with this trade for the Bucks? As a Bucks fan, I like this trade. Like I said earlier, there should be some protection on the pick (like top-5) but otherwise its fine.

Iggy would be a huge addition and fits in perfectly age-wise with Mo, Bogut and Yi.

We could start Miller/Mo at the guard spots.

I think Miller/Iggy give us a better chance to make the playoffs than Redd/CV do which minimizes the value of the draft pick added.

Redd is better than Iggy, then you have Arroyo-Bogans-Garrity for a top 10 pick and CV? And you don't dump Gadzuric or Simmons? This trade IS HORRIBLE FOR THE BUCKS. AI2 IS THE MOST OVERRATED POS. Some team will rue the day they give him 5/65.

If it was a top 5 pick I dont think Id do it. I think anyone in the top 5 could/is better then Iggy.

DanTown8587 wrote:Redd is better than Iggy,

That is just a false statement.

DanTown8587 wrote:Redd is better than Iggy, then you have Arroyo-Bogans-Garrity for a top 10 pick and CV? And you don't dump Gadzuric or Simmons? This trade IS HORRIBLE FOR THE BUCKS. AI2 IS THE MOST OVERRATED POS. Some team will rue the day they give him 5/65.

the trade got edited.
most have switched miller with bogans. which makes it goes from a decent trade to a bad one

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That is just a false statement.

I do not like Redd's game, but what does Iggy do so great? He has become a jump shooter and considering how many dunks he gets, should be a lot better than .440 and also only get 19 points a game in 40 minutes while taking 15 shots. Your right, that is such an amazing talent. God, why I am so crazy. The next Vince Carter ladies and gentlemen.

DanTown8587 wrote:Redd is better than Iggy, then you have Arroyo-Bogans-Garrity for a top 10 pick and CV? And you don't dump Gadzuric or Simmons? This trade IS HORRIBLE FOR THE BUCKS. AI2 IS THE MOST OVERRATED POS. Some team will rue the day they give him 5/65.

I think many will disagree with Redd>Iggy but, even if it is true, I have little doubt Iggy would be a better fit on our roster than Redd. He won't score as much but we have other players who can pick up the slack in that regard (Mo and Bogut now, Yi in the future) and he's provide the all-around game and defense that Redd lacks.

Most importantly, he is in roughly the same age group as Bogut, Yi and Mo. Even if Redd is better now (like I said, I don't think he is), how good is he going to be in 3-4 years when most of those guys are hitting their primes?

But the deal was switched.. now that Miller is out, its not such a good deal for the Bucks. My primary reasoning earlier was that the future first wasn't as important because I believe Miller/Iggy give us a better shot to make the playoffs this year (only 2 1/2 games out despite playing like **** so far this year).

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I do not like Redd's game, but what does Iggy do so great? He has become a jump shooter and considering how many dunks he gets, should be a lot better than .440 and also only get 19 points a game in 40 minutes while taking 15 shots. Your right, that is such an amazing talent. God, why I am so crazy. The next Vince Carter ladies and gentlemen.

lol @ the next Vince Carter as an insult... you do realize Vince is better than Redd right?

Nevermind.

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lol @ the next Vince Carter as an insult... you do realize Vince is better than Redd right?

I mean that he has the talent to take over, but whatever reason does not live up to it. Vince could have been a top 10 guy, just didn't grow into it for whatever reason. Plus, I bet Milwaukee pauses over Carter for Redd more than NJ does.

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I mean that he has the talent to take over, but whatever reason does not live up to it. Vince could have been a top 10 guy, just didn't grow into it for whatever reason. Plus, I bet Milwaukee pauses over Carter for Redd more than NJ does.

So basically what you're saying is you have no clue what type of player Andre Iguodala is, but since you've seen a lot of trades for him lately where the Sixers get a lot, you've become bitter and have been driven to make outlandish statements. Ok, got ya

Yeah, i have no idea that Iggy just shoots a bunch of midrange jumpers, is terrible from three, and does not make a single player better. And I'm bitter because of trades on a forum website. That makes sense.

piss poor trade