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Hou - Sac

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:10 am
by supertruck97
Hou Gives:

Battier + M. James + Kirk Snyder

Sac Gives:

Artest + SAR

Why for Houston: Get a legit 3rd option. This deal is contingent on Artest signing an extension.

Alston/TMac/Artest/Hayes/Yao

Why for Sac: Turns SAR into Snyders expiring. Battier is close to Artest on the defensive side, and is still young enough to be a stabilizing voice for their young transition.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:17 am
by Flash is the Future
What are they going to do with Mike James?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:17 am
by KF10
Sacramento declines for past reasons stated concerning about this deal...

Re: Hou - Sac

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:42 am
by SacKingZZZ
supertruck97 wrote:Hou Gives:

Battier + M. James + Kirk Snyder

Sac Gives:

Artest + SAR

Why for Houston: Get a legit 3rd option. This deal is contingent on Artest signing an extension.

Alston/TMac/Artest/Hayes/Yao

Why for Sac: Turns SAR into Snyders expiring. Battier is close to Artest on the defensive side, and is still young enough to be a stabilizing voice for their young transition.


But is just so far apart in every other single aspect of the game it just isn't something Sac should even remotely consider. I do like Battier though.

Re: Hou - Sac

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:57 am
by Crimson King
supertruck97 wrote:Hou Gives:

Why for Sac: Turns SAR into Snyders expiring. Battier is close to Artest on the defensive side, and is still young enough to be a stabilizing voice for their young transition.


No, turns SAR into Mike James, who has the same contract than SAR.

And then, turns Artest into Battier+Snyder.

Clearly no from the Kings.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:06 pm
by Smills91
Change SAR to Kenny Thomas and alter Snyder to Aaron Brooks and you'd begin to get the Kings attention. James does nothing but fill salary, so he can be altered if you like. I'd personally prefer exprings, but whatever...so...

Artest
Thomas

for

Battier
James
Brooks

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:23 pm
by DBurks2818
Bibby's perceived value here always amazes me. I'm interested to see what he looks like when he gets back, because I doubt he'll worth anywhere near what the Kings are looking for in just a month back from injury. He probably stays a King unless Petrie comes down from these demands.

I can see Artest getting traded though. Kings have a lot of talent at the swing positions. I don't know if he's worth quite this much though, on an expiring contract where there's no way to completely guarantee he'll re-sign.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:26 pm
by KF10
DBurks2818 wrote:Bibby's perceived value here always amazes me. I'm interested to see what he looks like when he gets back, because I doubt he'll worth anywhere near what the Kings are looking for in just a month back from injury. He probably stays a King unless Petrie comes down from these demands.


Umm, this deal is about Artest NOT Bibby...

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:26 pm
by Bac2Basics
DBurks2818 wrote:Bibby's perceived value here always amazes me. I'm interested to see what he looks like when he gets back, because I doubt he'll worth anywhere near what the Kings are looking for in just a month back from injury. He probably stays a King unless Petrie comes down from these demands.


Which is exactly why most Kings fans have said we are perfectly content to wait until Bibby can come back and is able to show exactly how valuable he is.

Most Kings fans were saying the same thing about Brad Miller, and if you've seen his stats for the season, you'd know we were right about Brad, and we will be right about Mike.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:33 pm
by DBurks2818
kingsfan10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Umm, this deal is about Artest NOT Bibby...


Yeah, I had already edited it. I thought this was that other topic trading both of them. Hard to keep track of all these SAC trades, you know ;)

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:35 pm
by KF10
DBurks2818 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Yeah, I had already edited it. I thought this was that other topic trading both of them. Hard to keep track of all these SAC trades, you know ;)


Yeah, I just noticed that. :D

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:36 pm
by DBurks2818
Bac2Basics wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Which is exactly why most Kings fans have said we are perfectly content to wait until Bibby can come back and is able to show exactly how valuable he is.

Most Kings fans were saying the same thing about Brad Miller, and if you've seen his stats for the season, you'd know we were right about Brad, and we will be right about Mike.


Personally, I think you just got lucky with predicting Miller to come back strong. Bibby coming back strong is a lot more likely.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:02 am
by SacKingZZZ
DBurks2818 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Personally, I think you just got lucky with predicting Miller to come back strong. Bibby coming back strong is a lot more likely.


Nah, Miller got in tremendous shape, better than I have ever seen him to be honest and Theus is using him much better as well. Losing 25 pounds and working out like a madman isn't luck at all.

Miller deserves all the credit for his play and he derserves to reap the rewards.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:16 am
by Smills91
DBurks2818 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Personally, I think you just got lucky with predicting Miller to come back strong. Bibby coming back strong is a lot more likely.


Naw it wasn't that difficult...we went from Musselman to ....well...anything was an improvement in the coaching ranks at that point. Theus has been amazing so far as a rookie coach.