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CHI/ATL/MIL - Noah-CV-Childress

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:21 pm
by HotSpurs21
Chicago
out: Andres Nocioni, Joakim Noah, Adrian Griffin, future 2nd
in: Charlie Villanueva, Josh Childress, Tyronn Lue


They ship out Nocioni's long contract to allow more financial flexibility to re-sign Deng and Gordon (they should be able to re-sign Childress at MLE). They also get rid of the unhappy Noah, who seems to be a disruption in the team's chemistry by his outspoken and expressive nature. They get a big man who has the ability to score in CV, and a wing who can take Nocioni's role as sixth man. Lue gives them an expiring contract.

Rotation:
Wallace/Smith/Gray
CV/Tyrus
Deng/Thabo
Gordon/Childress
Hinrich/Duhon


Atlanta
out: Josh Childress, Tyronn Lue
in: Joakim Noah, Desmond Mason, David Noel


They reunite Noah with college buddy Horford to form a dominating front court for the future. Mason replaces Childress as the sixth man and backup wing on the team.

Rotation:
Horford/Noah
JSmoove/Noah/Shelden
Marvin/JSmoove/Mason
Johnson/Mason/West
AJ/Law/West


Milwaukee
out: Desmond Mason, Charlie Villanueva, David Noel
in: Andres Nocioni, Adrian Griffin, CHI future 2nd


With Yi being the future cornerstone of the franchise, CV really doesn't have a future in MIL. They get a good defensive SF in Nocioni to fill in the big hole at SF, and Griffin to replace Mason's role as their backup defensive wing.

Rotation:
Bogut/Yi/Voskuhl
Yi/Nocioni/Ruffin
Nocioni/Simmons
Redd/Griffin
MoWill/Bell

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:22 pm
by trwi7
Bucks love this trade. :D

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:24 pm
by HotSpurs21
^ with the pick taken out and Thabo being in the package instead, will the Bucks still like it?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:37 pm
by tclg
when is childress and Charlie due for an extension?

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:22 pm
by HotSpurs21
tclg wrote:when is childress and Charlie due for an extension?


childress will be a restricted FA this year, and CV in 2009

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:35 pm
by tclg
I dont watch much of the hawks much but I wanted to know if childress likes to penetrate if he does I like this deal

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:53 pm
by HotSpurs21
^ from what I heard, Chill is pretty good at that, but I'm not 100% sure

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:13 pm
by treis
I like Childress, but there is no place for CV on the Bulls.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:19 pm
by Hawks
I like it for the Hawks. Mason is beyond horrible at this stage of his career. If it means getting Noah then I would do the deal. Perhaps getting Noah around Horford will help straighten him out.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:26 pm
by tclg
Yeah after this trade we would have to trade joe smith or ben wallace

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:28 pm
by HotSpurs21
^ yeah, you can probably dump Big Ben to the Lakers for Kwame and Vlad Rad

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:35 pm
by Cliff Levingston
It's not horrible but the Bulls pass. Maybe it's because Cliff Levingston is high on Noah.

If the idea is dumping Nocioni then he has enough value himself to warrant an expiring contract and a pick/young player by himself.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:44 pm
by spree8
It's a long way from being fair for the Bulls.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:02 pm
by conleyorbust
To answer those Chil questions, yes he is a decent slasher. He is an incredibly efficient player if he isn't featured as the go to guy in an offense. Runs the floor well, can work the baseline as well as any other wing, good on the offensive boards. He shoots 59% from the field so he doesn't miss many shots. Atlanta would probably take the downgrade to Mason if we could get Noah along with him.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:48 pm
by HotSpurs21
spree8 wrote:It's a long way from being fair for the Bulls.


It's just a matter of dumping Nocioni and cleaning up the chemistry in the locker room. Thabo can be substituted with Adrian Griffin if that makes the Bulls feel better (and if Milwaukee is okay with Nocioni and Griffin in return for CV and Mason)

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:33 pm
by lunarblues
not bad from the hawks point of view. losing childress hurts, but at least we get prospects for him. this trade could actually be done in real life. (and that sayin alot)

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:18 am
by HotSpurs21
Thabo is taken out... I hope that makes the Bulls fans feel better

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:07 am
by old rem
I think the Bulls are a weak link here-in that they give a bit better than tey get. Childress for Noah might interest both sides,but CV's market appeal is a bit low now...as is Masons,while Chill and Nocioni are playing well.