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Wolves & Nuggets

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:04 pm
by KG_And1
Kenyon Martin

FOR

Marko Jaric and Antoine Walker

:nod:

This opens up playing time for Nene who deserves the spot in Denver. Gives Denver another ball handler because they miss Reggie Evans.

Minnesota does this to cut two bad contracts into one bad one.

Re: Wolves & Nuggets

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:33 pm
by The Rebel
KG_And1 wrote:Kenyon Martin

FOR

Marko Jaric and Antoine Walker

:nod:

This opens up playing time for Nene who deserves the spot in Denver. Gives Denver another ball handler because they miss Reggie Evans.

Minnesota does this to cut two bad contracts into one bad one.


In case you do not know Nene is having a personal medical issue that may be very serious, due to that they are not going to dump KMart right now.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:36 pm
by shrink
I wouldn't do this any more. The deal costs MIN $15 mil, and MIN is just 16 months from Walker's deal expiring. I'd much rather have a useful, healthy Jaric at $6.9 mil than KMart at $15 mil. The Jaric and Walker deals aren't so phenomenally over-priced that they can't be moved. They also give up 8.2 PPG, 0.4 RPG, 4.3 APG.

If MIN is going to add $15 mil in salary, they'd definitely need incentive.

Re: Wolves & Nuggets

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:07 pm
by RRFB
KG_And1 wrote:Gives Denver another ball handler because they miss Reggie Evans.

Huh?

Anyway Denver says no. Toine is trash, and Kmart is actually doing pretty well this season.

Re: Wolves & Nuggets

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:40 pm
by B Calrissian
RRFB wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Huh?



I am guessing he is talking about when Evans handled Kaman's balls.

Re: Wolves & Nuggets

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:44 pm
by shrink
RRFB wrote: Anyway Denver says no. Toine is trash, and Kmart is actually doing pretty well this season.


How myopic

If K-Mart is "doing pretty well" so are Walker and Jaric, who are putting up comparable numbers.

Martin: 9.5 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 25.8 minutes
Jaric: 8.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.3 apg in 27.3 minutes
Walker: 8.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.7 minutes

Oh, for half the price.

Oh, and Walker is a $9 mil expiring next season.

Oh, and without the injury risk.

Re: Wolves & Nuggets

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:16 pm
by The Rebel
shrink wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



How myopic

If K-Mart is "doing pretty well" so are Walker and Jaric, who are putting up comparable numbers.

Martin: 9.5 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 25.8 minutes
Jaric: 8.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.3 apg in 27.3 minutes
Walker: 8.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.7 minutes

Oh, for half the price.

Oh, and Walker is a $9 mil expiring next season.

Oh, and without the injury risk.


Too bad those stats only show the offensive contributions, where Walker especially excels; of course defense is a whole different story, as neither of them can hold Kmarts jock on that end.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:27 pm
by yunggunz
If Nene was back, Denver would do this. But he isnt.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:27 pm
by B Calrissian
^Jaric is a good defender. You are right that Walker is not a good defender but his contract ends next year. Martin is good when he plays, but will get hurt again (you know he will) and will once again have the worst contract in the league.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:57 am
by shrink
You think Martin is better defensively than Jaric?

Or healthier?

Or cheaper?

Here's a hint .. if a guy's offensive production is similar to Marko Jaric, then people shouldn't be touting it as "doing pretty well."

Whatever man. Its good to dream.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:17 am
by RRFB
Look at the field goal percentages this season.

Kenyon: 49%
Walker: 36%

Kmart knows his role on this team, he's not gonna jack up contested threes and take away shots from Melo and AI. And as mentioned before, hes a hell of a better defender.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:23 am
by shrink
If Antoine Walker sat on the bench and ate cheeseburgers every game, he'd still have more trade value than K-Mart as a $9 mil expiring next season.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:38 am
by RRFB
Thats nice. But you're crazy if you think we're going to trade Kmart just to dump his salary when it makes our team significantly worse.