Chris Wilcox for Belinelli and a 1st

Post #1 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:32 pm

Just like the title says...Seattle trades Wilcox to GS for a portion of the TPE from the JRich/Wright deal, then trades a small part of the TPE back to GS for Marco Belinelli and a 1st round pick (lotto protected until delivered).

Seattle gets a young, dead-eye SG they can develop to be the offensive second banana to Durant, and a shot at another mid-level first round pick they can use to acquire more young guys (or move up in the draft).

Swift/Petro/Sene
Green/Collison
Durant/Gelable
Belinelli/Wilkins
West/Ridnour/Watson

Golden State gets an athletic, rebounding, shot blocking big man who would fit perfectly with our uptempo system. We need reliable big men in the worst way and Wilcox would fit the bill.

Biedrins/Harrington
Wilcox/Harrington
Jackson/Barnes
Ellis/Azubuike
Davis/Ellis/Watson

Ukraine Train · Post #2 » by **Ukraine Train** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:44 pm

IMO Wilcox would be a good fit with the W's both in terms of system and contract. I would like to keep Belinelli and I'd rather insert Pietrus who has played PF minutes in small lineups.

Wilcox for Pietrus/Lotto protected 1/portion of the Diogu TE.

OR if the Warriors want to expand the deal they might be interested in Earl Watson as well as long as they could stay under the lux tax and have room to resign AB/Monta next year without going over the lux tax.

Biedrins/Harrington
Wilcox/Harrington
S.Jax/Barnes
Monta/Belinelli
Baron/Watson

To get Wilcox and Watson I'd be willing to give up Belinelli instead of Pietrus.

ILOVEIT · Post #3 » by **ILOVEIT** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:51 pm

Too funny...I was JUST doing trade checker to see how that would work....

What does work:

Wilcox

for

Pietrus
POB
Belinelli

I don't see Wilcox as part of the rebuilding process for the Sonics..however I do see the three they would receive in this deal as up and coming talents....

Warriors can use Wilcox right now for this years playoff push.

turk3d · Post #4 » by **turk3d** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:52 pm

Really don't wany Watson and his salary. Would rather stay with "our" Watson instead.

Ukraine Train · Post #5 » by **Ukraine Train** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:57 pm

turk3d wrote:Really don't Watson and his salary. Would rather stay with "our" Watson instead.

I realize Watson has 3yrs at MLE money but he would be a substantial upgrade over CJ Watson. He's having a down year probably because he knows Seattle is not going anywhere this year. A change of scenery might do him a world of good.

turk3d · Post #6 » by **turk3d** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:07 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Too funny...I was JUST doing trade checker to see how that would work....

What does work:

Wilcox

for

Pietrus
POB
Belinelli

I don't see Wilcox as part of the rebuilding process for the Sonics..however I do see the three they would receive in this deal as up and coming talents....

Warriors can use Wilcox right now for this years playoff push.

Wilcox for just Pietrus and O'Bryant also works. I'd probably throw in a round 2 as well.

Or you could also possibly do a Wilcox, Sene for Pietrus, O'Bryant and Barnes, that would work too. The Sene move would be to compensate Seattle receiving O'Bryant since they would need to move one of their Centers, with Sene being the most likely candidate.

Still, receiving Wilcox (and even Sene) hurts us significantly capwise for next year even though Wilcox could help us this one (if utilized properly which is a bit questionable).

Also fyi, Kosta and Pietrus also work for Wilcox on trade checker. This would be better in that we at least can absorb some of the salary hit we'd incur if we obtained Wilcox. We still have draft picks we can use as well. It looks as though there may be some interesting trades prospects between the Warriors and Seattle.

Post #7 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:40 pm

Seattle wouldn't do most of these suggested variations...especially not the ones where they get Pietrus and POB instead of Beli and a pick.

Post #8 » by **VintaGe36** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:44 pm

Yeah, most of these offers are GARBAGE for SEA.

and I'm not even a SEA fan

Devilzsidewalk · Post #9 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:52 pm

VintaGe36 wrote:Yeah, most of these offers are GARBAGE for SEA.

and I'm not even a SEA fan

shhh, I'm having fun watching GS fans trump eachother in lowering a deal post by post that wasn't that good to begin with

Its like dad offering somebody $20,000 for a brand new Lincoln Navigator, then family members piping up and saying, "you know whats even better for us? $15,000 ! No, better yet... $10,000! Or how about Rex's puppies we've been trying to give away anyways plus our old couch!"

djthesonicsfan · Post #10 » by **djthesonicsfan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:00 pm

At the beginning of the year there was a lot of talk in Seattle about a Belinelli for Wilcox trade, especially after his spectacular rookie league outings. That talk has died down since.

The primary reason the Sonics would consider this the idea of both K Durant & J Green getting a bit bigger & sliding up to SF & PF, respectively. That leaves a hole at SG which Belinelli could possibly fill.

But Belinelli hasn't done much for the Warriors this year. Makes you wonder.

Downtown · Post #11 » by **Downtown** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:16 pm

I think the point was made that in order to get Seattle to trade Wilcox then Watson has to be attached to the deal.

Wilcox and Watson for Pietrus, 2008 1st round pick, and TPE mght get it done. Of course the Warriors get the better player in the deal, but as a Sonics fan I can see the ownership hedging their bet a little on two fronts. If they feel that Jeff Green is going to be better suited at power forward( where I feel he should play) rather than small forward then this frees up a spot for him. If their Gm thinks they might be ready to add a free agent rather than keep going the rebuilding route through the draft then this also addresses that.

If you go by the saying that whoever gets the better player wins the trade then the Warriors come out ahead. But something like this is one of those ones that you don't know the outcome for a while down the road .

For the record, I wouldn't want either O'Bryant or Bellinelli on Seattle.

Post #12 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:37 pm

Downtown wrote:I think the point was made that in order to get Seattle to trade Wilcox then Watson has to be attached to the deal.

Wilcox and Watson for Pietrus, 2008 1st round pick, and TPE mght get it done.

GS' management likely wouldn't take on Watson's salary, especially since he'd be a 10 mpg backup slash injury replacement for Baron.

If some deal can be worked out centering on Wilcox for some combination of Pietrus, Belinelli, O'Bryant, etc. (basically not Baron, Ellis, Jackson, Biedrins, Wright) and picks I would more than likely pull the trigger. But taking on Watson's salary is simply not an option.