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I can't seem to get the salaries to match up correctly because of Martins PPP but i think a trade like this could benifit both teams.

Martin
for
Bellinelli
Wright
081st

this gets the warriors a major young talent and helps them make a bigger push in the playoffs. This trade could also help the kings because we would now have the type of PF that we need next to Hawes and they could both develop togeather Bellinelli would be a decent replacement in the future for Martin and the pick adds a little extra value for the kings.


I'm not a big fan of trading Martin but Smills has got me thinking about it and this is the type of trade that I would be willing to look into.

really can't see Kevin Martin commanding that kind of value.

Why do we want Martin when we already have Ellis (at a much lower price I might add)?

turk3d wrote:Why do we want Martin when we already have Ellis (at a much lower price I might add)?

Well, you shouldn't, isn't he about to get PAID?

No way in hell Kings touch this deal. Not even close.

If we're trading Martin, we won't be trading for pieces that have unknown production. At least one established commodity has to be coming back to Sacramento. This is easily a no from the Kings.

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Well, you shouldn't, isn't he about to get PAID?

We'll worry about that next year but for now, you can keep Martin and we'll keep Ellis fair enough? Maybe next year we can talk perhaps.

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We'll worry about that next year but for now, you can keep Martin and we'll keep Ellis fair enough? Maybe next year we can talk perhaps.

Martin's extenstion doesn't even kick in until next year--when you'll have to pay Monta anyway.

Regardless they aren't even that similar of players. The only reason that they're constantly compared is that they are both draft steals and both play in Northern California.

But yeah, the Kings probably pass until Wright proves himself a little.

I doubt GS does it. They're high on Wright

Kings don't touch it. Martin is our future star

turk3d wrote:Why do we want Martin when we already have Ellis (at a much lower price I might add)?

Maybe because Martin is a much better player than Ellis?

Anyway, GS gave up more value, considering Wright was a lotto pick, was traded for Richardson. But I dont like it for Sac either. Both Wright/Belinelli havent showned much and are too unproven talent. Martin has already proved himself to worthy of his contract.

I doubt both teams do it, Martin is an established star and their franchise player, while the Warriors have pretty high hopes for Wright and Belli for the future. Besides their SG position is fine with Ellis, Azubuike, and at spots with Watson, Jackson and Pietrus.

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Maybe because Martin is a much better player than Ellis?

Anyway, GS gave up more value, considering Wright was a lotto pick, was traded for Richardson. But I dont like it for Sac either. Both Wright/Belinelli havent showned much and are too unproven talent. Martin has already proved himself to worthy of his contract.

Maybe we don't think so and that's why we don't do it.

Both teams pass.

Martin is a great young player, and I'd love to have him in GS, but we already have a lot of talent at the 2 (Ellis, Azubuike, Belinelli, etc.) and really only 1 young big man (Biedrins) outside of Wright. If the deal were centered around Ellis+ for Martin, then I'd be all over it, but then there's really no point for Sacramento.

As is, Sacto loses out on a potential franchise SG for some unknowns - not something I think they want to do at this point.

Kings need more of an established big who can actually play defense.

Pointless trade for both teams.

What I'd like to see is a Gasol for Martin type of deal. I think both teams could live with that.

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Maybe I don't think so and that's why we don't do it.

Fixed* I think you're the only who dont think Martin is better than Ellis. Take it to the comparison board if you want to.

What a stupid deal for the Warriors. Why do we need another two guard?

There are only a handful of players in the league that Sacramento would/should consider trading Kevin Martin for, and Golden State doesn't have a single one of those players on it's roster.

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Maybe we don't think so and that's why we don't do it.

Tell your wife Marge, and Kids, Bart, Lisa and Maggie hi for me, would you.

I dunno,
I think if Petrie/Maloofs completely committed to rebuilding, they could do something like this, if they feel that Wright is legit and has the ability in becoming a future Allstar/MVP type of a PF.

Reason being why i can see Petrie trading Martin, is Petrie's ability to draft wing players. Peja, Hedo, Gerald, Martin, Garcia, Douby all of whom have proved they are all good/great players. And Petrie's ability to sign wing players that no one previously wanted but are still amazingly productive, Salmons, Jimmy Jackson, House, Mo Evans, etc.

I hate the trade from a fan's pov, but could see it from a team pov