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Post#1 » by raptorsfan13 » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:19 pm

Toronto Sends

Jose Calderon
Jason Kapono
Rasho Nesterovich


Chicago Sends

Ben Wallace
Chris Duhon
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Post#2 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:23 pm

Why would the Raptors do this?

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Post#3 » by raptorsfan13 » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:26 pm

to get a big man inside to rebound and create space for bosh

you have to give up something to get something in return. the raptors, due to fords injury, would clearly have to pick up another pointguard to help duhon if he gets hurt.

that being said its not like any of this would ever happen
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Post#4 » by SactownHrtBrks8 » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:30 pm

Thats terrible. Ben Wallace has the worse contract in the league. No way the Bulls get that return for him
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Post#5 » by RoxFan08 » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:32 pm

Yikes. Proposed by a toronto fan, no less. Have you seen Ben Wallace and Chris Duhon play this year? Hell, have you just looked at their numbers? Trust me, you're better off with Rasho.
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Post#6 » by SactownHrtBrks8 » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:36 pm

raptorsfan13 wrote:Toronto Sends

Jose Calderon
Jason Kapono
Rasho Nesterovich


Chicago Sends

Ben Wallace
Chris Duhon


I am questioning your fanhood Raptorsfan13
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Post#7 » by Schad » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:40 pm

raptorsfan13 wrote:to get a big man inside to rebound and create space for bosh

you have to give up something to get something in return. the raptors, due to fords injury, would clearly have to pick up another pointguard to help duhon if he gets hurt.

that being said its not like any of this would ever happen


Ben Wallace is in steep decline, and his salary over the next three years rivals Exxon's profits. Right now, he's statistically the worst offensive starting center in NBA history, and his defense and hustle have taken a hit as well.

Introducing Duhon to the higher alcohol content in Canadian beer might also be fatal.
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Re: Toronto - Chicago 

Post#8 » by Mr Swagtastic » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:52 pm

raptorsfan13 wrote:Toronto Sends

Jose Calderon
Jason Kapono
Rasho Nesterovich


Chicago Sends

Ben Wallace
Chris Duhon


:roll: :crazy: :nonono: You call yourself a Raptor fan? Ben Wallace is pure garbage. He's washed up and can't do anything now. Rasho for Wallace is seriously overpaying since Wallace has the worst deal in the NBA now. Calderon + Kopono are worth alot more the Duhon.

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Post#9 » by coldfish » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:53 pm

Done!!!! Could you guys throw in that Bosh guy while you are at it?
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Post#10 » by tclg » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:55 pm

I would trade nocioni for calderon I think something like that is more realistic
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Post#11 » by ice9 » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:00 pm

If the Raptors took out Calderon and the Bulls added a pick I'd still do it as a Bulls fan.
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Post#12 » by Schad » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:03 pm

ice9 wrote:If the Raptors took out Calderon and the Bulls added a pick I'd still do it as a Bulls fan.


Heh, Wallace + Duhon + 2009 1st (lottery protected) for Rasho, Kapono and Garbajosa?
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Post#13 » by tclg » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:06 pm

I would prefer if we got one guard since we would only have hinrich and gordon in the backcourt really
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Post#14 » by Mr Swagtastic » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:09 pm

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Heh, Wallace + Duhon + 2009 1st (lottery protected) for Rasho, Kapono and Garbajosa?


Hell no you would have to give a 100% unprotected pick just to get Toronto to consider this. Wallace has done nothing this season and is making superstar money. He's the worst C in the league this year hands down.

Duhon hasn't done great this season so that really hurts his value, I think that Kopono is worth more then Duhon as it is now and anybody with a shorter contract is worth Wallace.

Toronto goes into serious cap hell after this deal how could we afford to resign Bargnani, Calderon, Duhon, Delfino and afford to pay 2 draft picks this year? We would be at like $70 million
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Post#15 » by coldfish » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:18 pm

I think its settled then, someone get on the horn and get this deal done. Pronto.
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Post#16 » by Schad » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:21 pm

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Hell no you would have to give a 100% unprotected pick just to get Toronto to consider this. Wallace has done nothing this season and is making superstar money. He's the worst C in the league this year hands down.

Duhon hasn't done great this season so that really hurts his value, I think that Kopono is worth more then Duhon as it is now and anybody with a shorter contract is worth Wallace.

Toronto goes into serious cap hell after this deal how could we afford to resign Bargnani, Calderon, Duhon, Delfino and afford to pay 2 draft picks this year? We would be at like $70 million


Oh, I never said that I'd do it...it was more of a "how much are you willing to pay us to take him off your hands" question.
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Post#17 » by Mr Swagtastic » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:30 pm

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Oh, I never said that I'd do it...it was more of a "how much are you willing to pay us to take him off your hands" question.


Well this is a bad deal for Toronto with a protected first since Chicago isn't really in the position to make a serious run to push them out of the lotto draft and this is a great year for players like Roy Hibbert, Tyler Smith, Danilo Gallinari, Patrick Patterson and Brook Lopez whom are all going to be lotto picks. Toronto could use a big like Hibbert, Lopez or Patterson.

Wallace was a one point considered one of the elite center's in the league now his just bad and really overpaied. It's not always about the talent, it's how it's going to fit now and in the next 2-3 years. Wallace dosn't help us he hinders us and just takes up wayyyyyyyyy too much cap room.
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Post#18 » by BR0D1E86 » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:49 pm

John Paxson would lace up Ben Wallace
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Post#19 » by TGM » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:06 am

raptorsfan13 wrote:to get a big man inside to rebound and create space for bosh

you have to give up something to get something in return. the raptors, due to fords injury, would clearly have to pick up another pointguard to help duhon if he gets hurt.

that being said its not like any of this would ever happen


No way Toronto does this.

Also Calderon right now is worth more than Kirk Hinrich and I'm sure Hinrich is still worth more than Wallace and Duhon combined.

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