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Indiana Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Sean Williams
Jamaal Magloire
Jarrett Jack
Martell Webster
Raef LaFrentz

Outgoing Players
Andre Owens
Stephen Graham
David Harrison
Jermaine O'Neal

New Jersey Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Stephen Graham
Jermaine O'Neal
Channing Frye

Outgoing Players
Sean Williams
Jamaal Magloire
Richard Jefferson

Portland Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Andre Owens
David Harrison
Richard Jefferson

Outgoing Players
Jarrett Jack
Martell Webster
Raef LaFrentz
Channing Frye

Why:
NJ: Ger JO to pair w/ Kidd/ Carter/ & Krstic

IN: gets youth & cap help

Por: Gets a needed SF, & clears contracts for n/y

Makes sense. I like it.

i'd rather not deal sean williams in that deal

No thanks from Portland. 3 rotation players for 1 isn't usually a good idea.

Nice Pacerguy.

Potland loses depth to an extent, but they more than make up for it by adding Jefferson to the mix.

Portland says yes. I like it.

I don't like it for the Pacers.. Any deal we do needs to have Tinsley on the outs.

J~Rush wrote:No thanks from Portland. 3 rotation players for 1 isn't usually a good idea.

The thought is...
Portland will have as many as 22 players n/y (w/ current players, draft choices, & over-seas talent). They seem to like them all, but they can not keep them all. Adding a top-tier SF to that team w/ 2 back end rotation players & 1 starter while moving LeFrentz is a good move (IMO). Harrison & Owens are expiring, so you clear some cap too
Besides, the 1 you add out-produces the 3 you lose.

That said, I respect your opinion...

For Portland you're losing probably the 4 most expendable players on the team in Jack, Webster, Frye and Raef, and setting yourself up for a 4 year stretch of Roy/Aldridge/Oden/Jefferson, AND the flexibility so spend a moderate amount on a decent point guard.

Nice name, SchruteFarms (gotta love the Office!), and welcome.

The Nets would like JO and Frye, but they are redundant together (especially with Krstic still in our plans). And not at the expense of RJ. Not anymore.

pretty bad for portland, they'd never consider it

SchruteFarms wrote:For Portland you're losing probably the 4 most expendable players on the team in Jack, Webster, Frye and Raef, and setting yourself up for a 4 year stretch of Roy/Aldridge/Oden/Jefferson, AND the flexibility so spend a moderate amount on a decent point guard.

More or less. Can we agree that Jefferson's better than Webster? Because I can. And I'm sure most would because it's just common sense.

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More or less. Can we agree that Jefferson's better than Webster? Because I can. And I'm sure most would because it's just common sense.

Yeah but we're trading a lot of talent for Jefferson..Maybe I just wasn't impressed from him the other night when we played Jersey but he isn't that much better then Webster from what I could see..I'll keep the youth and wait for a better player to get then Jefferson....

For Portland I kind of like the Martell/Jones rotation we have at small forward. It is good to have the shooters to complement Roy.

POR don't need a star SF like RJ. He'll be old by the time their young core grow into their prime. Webster is their future at SF

SchruteFarms wrote:For Portland you're losing probably the 4 most expendable players on the team in Jack, Webster, Frye and Raef, and setting yourself up for a 4 year stretch of Roy/Aldridge/Oden/Jefferson, AND the flexibility so spend a moderate amount on a decent point guard.

But Portland's clear goal from the get-go has not been a 4 year stretch it has been a 10 year window.

Webster isn't perfect but I think he's getting overlooked here. Sure Jefferson is much better than him and probably always will be, but if 4 years from now when Portland should be in the championship window I doubt they want to be looking around for another starting SF. But that's just me.

As a Nets fan I want no part of JO he has bad knees

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More or less. Can we agree that Jefferson's better than Webster? Because I can. And I'm sure most would because it's just common sense.

In Richard Jefferson's 3rd year out of high-school he averaged 11.3 points, 5.4 rebounds, and 2.7 assists in 27.5 minutes while shooting 47.9 fg%, 34.4 3pt% and 65.5 FT%. At the University of Arizona!

In Martell Webster's 3rd year out of high-school he's averaging 11 points, 4 rebounds and 1.5 assists in 29.2 minutes while shooting 43.1 FG%, 38.5 3pt% and 75.9 ft%. In the NBA! While starting for a team with a 23-15 record.

While Jefferson is certainly the better player right now he's also 6.5 years older than Webster. Given how much Martell has improved over the past season it would be daft to trade him for an older player with a history of injuries when we may indeed have the long-term answer at SF already starting at the position.

No thanks from Portland. At the beginning of the year, we probably would've taken it, but Webster's broken through, Channing's a solid center off the bench. Good trade, but at this point, I don't think the Blazers do it.

Im not crazy about it for portland, its not a bad deal but Id rather stand pat with what we got. I really dont like if from NJ's angle. Flat out id rather have RJ and his 24PPG then whatever you get from O'Neal when his knees are not killing him. Not to mention they took the risk drafting Williams and so far I think he has been giving them some pretty good production.