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ORL/CHI
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:49 am
by Cammo101
Orlando Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -11.0 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and +0.4 apg.
Incoming Players
Chris Duhon
6-1 PG from Duke
5.4 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 3.8 apg in 22.8 minutes
Tyrus Thomas
6-8 PF from LSU
5.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 16.6 minutes
2008 2nd round pick
Outgoing Players
J.J. Redick
6-5 SG from Duke
3.5 ppg, 0.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 8.6 minutes
Hedo Turkoglu
6-8 SF / SG from Turkey (Foreign)
18.7 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 4.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
2008 1st round pick
Chicago Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +11.0 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and -0.4 apg.
Incoming Players
J.J. Redick
6-5 SG from Duke
3.5 ppg, 0.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 8.6 minutes
Hedo Turkoglu
6-8 SF / SG from Turkey (Foreign)
18.7 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 4.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
2008 1st round pick
Outgoing Players
Chris Duhon
6-1 PG from Duke
5.4 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 3.8 apg in 22.8 minutes
Tyrus Thomas
6-8 PF from LSU
5.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 16.6 minutes
2008 2nd round pick
Any thoughts?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:58 am
by Friend_Of_Haley
From a talent standpoint its good for Chicago, but it doesn't make sense from a salary standpoint or from player position standpoint.
And I can't see why Orlando would want this.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:42 am
by DanTown8587
Only unless the Bulls thought Deng was gone or didn't want him back.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:48 am
by moocow007
Friend_Of_Haley wrote:From a talent standpoint its good for Chicago, but it doesn't make sense from a salary standpoint or from player position standpoint.
And I can't see why Orlando would want this.
Yeah I don't see what this does for Orlando. I really doubt Thomas would be able to step in and start for Orlando so that would leave the with what, starting Dooling or Mo Evans?
I would think they want to see if there's a team out there that would take their 1st along with JJ Reddick (who may still have some good value) and perhaps Doolings expiring contract for a serious upgrade at the 6th man position.
With a lot of money invested long term on this team even if that 6th man has a hefty-ish salary if he can be a big upgrade on the court, it really does make sense IMHO.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:07 am
by bullzman23
moocow007 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Yeah I don't see what this does for Orlando. I really doubt Thomas would be able to step in and start for Orlando so that would leave the with what, starting Dooling or Mo Evans?
He'd be able to start. Take a look at games where he actually gets PT. He almost always responds. The Howard-Thomas front-court would be ridiculous.
That being said this is a terrible trade idea.
This would give the Bulls:
Deng/Noce/Hedo at the SF position
and
Gordon/Sefolosaha/Redick at the two.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:41 pm
by MagicFan3
To be fair, I think Hedo would be above Nocioni on your depth chart...
Orlando passes. Thomas isn't a starter quality player yet, and this still wouldn't address our SG issue, or even PG for that matter. Duhon isn't a starter either.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:03 pm
by coldfish
MagicFan3 wrote:To be fair, I think Hedo would be above Nocioni on your depth chart...
Let's say you are right. The Bulls just gave Nocioni a big contract, is it really a good idea to make a trade bury him on the bench?
Regardless of who is 2nd or 3rd, it doesn't make any sense.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:49 pm
by moocow007
bullzman23 wrote:He'd be able to start. Take a look at games where he actually gets PT. He almost always responds. The Howard-Thomas front-court would be ridiculous.
That being said this is a terrible trade idea.
This would give the Bulls:
Deng/Noce/Hedo at the SF position
and
Gordon/Sefolosaha/Redick at the two.
Honestly though with the way Turkoglu is playing and considering that he is the more complete player I don't see replacing Turkoglu with Thomas in their starting lineup doing anything for them right now. If that's not what Orlando is concerned about (and I think it is) then it would make sense. But if Orlando is trying to win now, Turkoglu really does make more sense.