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Sacramento Kings

Incoming Players

Malik Rose
Salary: $7,101,250 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 1.7 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.4 PER: -1.92

Stephon Marbury
Salary: $19,012,500 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.9 REB: 2.5 AST: 4.7 PER: 14.51

Renaldo Balkman
Salary: $1,280,640 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.0 REB: 3.0 AST: 0.5 PER: 10.86

David Lee
Salary: $990,600 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 9.4 REB: 7.9 AST: 1.0 PER: 16.79

Nate Robinson
Salary: $1,268,160 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 11.3 REB: 2.8 AST: 2.1 PER: 17.11

Outgoing Players: Mike Bibby, Kenny Thomas, Ron Artest

PG:Marbury-Udrih-Robinson
SG:Martin-Douby-Jones
SF:Salmons-Garcia-Balkman
PF:Lee-Rose-AbdurRahim
C:Miller-Moore-Hawes



Miami Heat

Incoming Players

Jerome James
Salary: $5,800,000 Years Remaining: 2

Jared Jeffries
Salary: $5,632,200 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 2.6 REB: 2.9 AST: 0.7 PER: 7.66

Eddy Curry
Salary: $8,947,543 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 14.4 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.6 PER: 16.34

Mike Bibby
Salary: $13,500,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 19.0 REB: 6.0 AST: 0.0 PER: 19.51

Kenny Thomas
Salary: $7,875,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 1.4 REB: 2.7 AST: 0.6 PER: 2.74

Ron Artest
Salary: $7,400,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 18.4 REB: 5.9 AST: 4.3 PER: 16.56

Randolph Morris

Outgoing Players: Ricky Davis, Jason Williams, Udonis Haslem, Shaquille O'Neal, Smush Parker, Mark Blount, Alonzo Mourning

PG:Bibby-Quinn
SG:Wade-Cook-Wright
SF:Artest-Jeffries-Jackson
PF:Thomas-Johnson
C:Curry-Barron-Anthony-James




New York Knicks

Incoming Players

Jason Collins
Salary: $6,100,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 1.4 REB: 2.2 AST: 0.5 PER: 2.09

Vince Carter
Salary: $13,325,000 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 21.2 REB: 5.3 AST: 4.8 PER: 18.79

Jamaal Magloire
Salary: $4,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 1.9 REB: 3.6 AST: 0.3 PER: 2.05

Ricky Davis
Salary: $6,819,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 14.8 REB: 4.3 AST: 3.0 PER: 12.61

Jason Williams
Salary: $8,937,500 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.1 REB: 2.2 AST: 5.1 PER: 12.92

Bostjan Nachbar
Salary: $2,500,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.2 REB: 3.2 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.36

Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,050,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.8 REB: 9.3 AST: 1.4 PER: 13.69

Shaquille O'Neal
Salary: $20,000,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 14.3 REB: 7.9 AST: 1.4 PER: 18.77

Mark Blount

Alonzo Mourning

Smush Parker

Outgoing Players: Jerome James, Mardy Collins, Quentin Richardson, Jared Jeffries, Malik Rose, Stephon Marbury, Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, Zach Randolph, Renaldo Balkman, Jamal Crawford, David Lee, Nate Robinson, Randolph Morris

PG:Williams-Parker
SG:Carter-Jones
SF:Davis-Nachbar
PF:Haslem-Blount-Zo
C:Shaq-Magloire-Collins-




New Jersey Nets

Incoming Players

Mardy Collins
Salary: $967,320 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 1.5 REB: 1.3 AST: 1.1 PER: 2.24

Quentin Richardson
Salary: $8,105,500 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 6.6 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.9 PER: 7.08

Wilson Chandler
Salary: $1,091,640 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.3 REB: 1.6 AST: 0.4 PER: 9.85

Zach Randolph
Salary: $13,333,333 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 17.0 REB: 10.1 AST: 1.9 PER: 17.39

Jamal Crawford
Salary: $7,920,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 19.8 REB: 2.9 AST: 4.6 PER: 15.59

Outgoing Players: Jason Collins, Vince Carter, Jamaal Magloire, Bostjan Nachbar

PG:Kidd-Armstrong-Williams
SG:Crawford-Wright-Chandler-Collins
SF:Jefferson-Richardson
PF:Randolph-Boone
C:Krstic-Williams-Allen

OK, we can try this again.

Miami is trying to lose about $6 million in salary before February 20th. What does this do? Add $9 million!

I'd consider Jerome James, but I don't think I'd take back Jeffries. I also don't see what this does for us, because if we trade Shaq, it's too rebuild, and this is neither, just lok at that PF rotation. And it would hurt our pick. After this trade, the Knicks look a whole lot like the Heat without VC in place of Dwyane Wade. That simply can't be a good idea.

Leave the Nets out of this trade. There is nothing coming our way that would justify Carter leaving.

so we get back wince...and crap.

BBallFreak wrote:OK, we can try this again.

Miami is trying to lose about $6 million in salary before February 20th. What does this do? Add $9 million!

I'd think the Heat just offer up Jason Williams to the Warriors for their TPE and a 2nd round pick. THat'd make a lot of sense for both teams.

Just say NO to Stephon Marbury in a Sacramento Uniform.

How many bad deals does Miami take? 3?

Kings' chemistry is going down the toilet and what do we do? Add Stephon Marbury

so basically for the Knicks you took most of Miami's roster that has brought them to somehow have less wins than the Knicks, plus trade away their only brightspot for the future?

I also question Nets' fans' opinions of VC. In all honesty that is FAR too much to get for VC, possibly the most overrated player of all time. I mean the only complaint a Net fan can have is that they get back Q who should probably just kill himself old-school Japanese style instead of facing the embarassment of playing basketball.

You guys might all actually want to watch Randolph b4 you rip on him and just believe what people are saying. It isn't that he doesn't want to pass the ball, but that he doesn't think it is the right thing to do FOR THE TEAM. He is perfectly fine to pass it to Crawford, Nate or Curry when they are hot, but he does the Kobe rule when they aren't where it is better for the team if he takes a shot double-teamed then pass it to his **** teammates.

if you start Sean Williams instead of NK, and have Crawford run off-ball screens where a playmaker like Jason Kidd can find him open looks, I see no reason why this Nets roster wouldn't be a top team in the East.

I also love how you trade the whole Knicks roster besides Morris and the player most likely to be traded this season (Jones and his expiring)

every team except the Nets hangs up the phone and laughs.

honestly though, remember that Real GM article about Isiah getting out Isiah'd, well oyu might have been able to do it, because you have actually managed to assemble a Knicks team that is FAR worse than their current team and with just as big of a longterm cap clusterfu*k.

Smills91 wrote:I'd think the Heat just offer up Jason Williams to the Warriors for their TPE and a 2nd round pick. THat'd make a lot of sense for both teams.

Without a doubt, that would be the far smarter move...

knicksh20b wrote:so we get back wince...and crap.

Udonis Haslem and Shaquille O'Neal are not crap.

Mia adds Bibby and Artest and Curry (for a lesser degree)...I think it's fair for them


Sac should be in rebuild mode, they get back 3 young studs and a couple of expiring contracts next year

NJ gets multiple pieces to make a run, including the low post one they really need

NY gets a couple of "start names" (shaq and vc) if they are going to be mediocre,, might as well do it with some interest for the fans. they also get back some expirngs and shorter deals

Fixed

ecuhus1981 wrote:Leave the Nets, Knicks, Kings and Heat out of this trade.

ecuhus1981 wrote:Leave the Nets out of this trade. There is nothing coming our way that would justify Carter leaving.

ya nets don't need to be involved

shagadelic45 wrote:Mia adds Bibby and Artest and Curry (for a lesser degree)...I think it's fair for them


Sac should be in rebuild mode, they get back 3 young studs and a couple of expiring contracts next year

NJ gets multiple pieces to make a run, including the low post one they really need

NY gets a couple of "start names" (shaq and vc) if they are going to be mediocre,, might as well do it with some interest for the fans. they also get back some expirngs and shorter deals

you don't understand Knicks basketball. The fans are idiots, and will go to the games no matter what. And then there are the people like me who are screwed who have season tickets and there is no way i am going to give them up no matter how long of a dry-spell they had, have, and will continue to have. Most of the seats are bought by corporations anyway.

And none of the players you mentioned are stars anymore, except Shaq who is really just troubled because is ex-wife is the biggest piece of trash I have ever heard about. Vince hasn't mattered since he missed that game-winning 3 against Phili in the playoffs. He is as relevant as Marbury.

I've got no real problems from the Kings perspective. If Marbury is going to be a distraction, they can just buy him out. His contract would still come off the books before Thomas, and at the same time as Bibby.

I'm just not sure why the Kings are soo interested in Balkman. I do like his potential a lot, but if there's already a logjam with Salmons, Martin, Garcia, Douby all fighting for minutes at the swing, why add more?

I think the Kings' next move would be to move Miller for expirings, and possibly a pick.

As a general fan of the NBA, I like how this trade mixes things up for all the teams. NY gets the big names, which seems to fit somehow, Miami does a Curry for Shaq deal, which other than the hilarious aspect of baby Shaq for Shaq, also makes them younger. NJ loses one of their top 3, but gets a more balanced and versatile roster, IMO.

LPKingsFan wrote:I've got no real problems from the Kings perspective. If Marbury is going to be a distraction, they can just buy him out. His contract would still come off the books before Thomas, and at the same time as Bibby.

I'm just not sure why the Kings are soo interested in Balkman. I do like his potential a lot, but if there's already a logjam with Salmons, Martin, Garcia, Douby all fighting for minutes at the swing, why add more?

I think the Kings' next move would be to move Miller for expirings, and possibly a pick.

As a general fan of the NBA, I like how this trade mixes things up for all the teams. NY gets the big names, which seems to fit somehow, Miami does a Curry for Shaq deal, which other than the hilarious aspect of baby Shaq for Shaq, also makes them younger. NJ loses one of their top 3, but gets a more balanced and versatile roster, IMO.

But how does getting big names fit NY? Despite playing like absolute crap they still have no problems whatsoever filling seats (at the highest ticket prices in the NBA). I mean we're talking about $10,000 for a single front row seat (yes, for only one single game) and thats if you can find someone willing to give it up.

I've got no real problems from the Kings perspective. If Marbury is going to be a distraction, they can just buy him out. His contract would still come off the books before Thomas, and at the same time as Bibby.

I'm just not sure why the Kings are soo interested in Balkman. I do like his potential a lot, but if there's already a logjam with Salmons, Martin, Garcia, Douby all fighting for minutes at the swing, why add more?

I think the Kings' next move would be to move Miller for expirings, and possibly a pick.

As a general fan of the NBA, I like how this trade mixes things up for all the teams. NY gets the big names, which seems to fit somehow, Miami does a Curry for Shaq deal, which other than the hilarious aspect of baby Shaq for Shaq, also makes them younger. NJ loses one of their top 3, but gets a more balanced and versatile roster, IMO.

thanks...good assessment. i agree, this is a below the radar good for everyone trade. there aren't many "sexy" moves, just simple shakeups that make sense

shagadelic45 wrote:Mia adds Bibby and Artest and Curry (for a lesser degree)...I think it's fair for them

OK, let's try this again, maybe in bigger letters...

WE DON'T WANT TO PAY THE TAX! We need to drop $6 million in salary. You not only do not drop $6 million, you ADD an additional $9 million! After your trade, we're $15 million over the tax!

$15 freaking million!

NO!

^^^^^^^ Ok, I think i ammended it to satisfy all........