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SUNS/JAZZ Blockbuster (Amare/Boozer)

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:05 pm
by JDubJazz
Phoenix Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +12.8 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +3.7 apg.

Incoming Players

Ronnie Brewer
6-7 SG from Arkansas
12.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.1 apg in 29.0 minutes

Carlos Boozer
6-8 PF from Duke

22.8 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 2.8 apg in 34.9 minutes

Outgoing Players

Amare Stoudemire
6-10 PF from Cypress Creek (HS)
22.3 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.5 minutes

Utah Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: -12.8 ppg, -4.4 rpg, and -3.7 apg.

Incoming Players

Amare Stoudemire
6-10 PF from Cypress Creek (HS)
22.3 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.5 minutes

Outgoing Players

Ronnie Brewer
6-7 SG from Arkansas
12.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.1 apg in 29.0 minutes

Carlos Boozer
6-8 PF from Duke
22.8 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 2.8 apg in 34.9 minutes


There has been speculation for months about a Suns/Jazz SF swap, but to me it makes a lot more sense to swap PFs. In this deal, the Suns lose nothing offensively, save a little cash, and get a bonus player in Ronnie Brewer who would fit their system perfectly.

The Jazz get a PF with more size and who is a legitimate threat to block a shot. amare is no all NBA defensive guy, but at least players have to account for him when driving to the hoop. Phoenix would probably have to throw in a future protected first rounder here for the Jazz to bite, but I think it could make both teams better in the long run.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:09 pm
by NCHeels2008
i don't get this swap if Suns are going to have a no defense PF, why not keep the one they got?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:11 pm
by loserX
Who plays C for the Suns? I don't see it happening, even without the pick (which would be 2012 at the earliest, remember).

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:32 pm
by hermes
this doesn't make a whole lot of sense

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:48 pm
by JDubJazz
Who plays center for the Suns? They don't use a center in their offense. Boozer basically plays center for the Jazz and he would do so in Phoenix as well.

As for the reason why they do it...simple...Phoenix has chemistry issues and needs a shake up. By replacing amare with Booz, the Suns get to mix it up without losing any of their offensive punch. Additionally, they get a nice young guy in Brewer who fits their style perfectly and they save some cash to boot.

I'm not saying Phoenix would definitely do it, but there are certainly a lot of reasons to consider it.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:00 am
by yunggunz
JDubJazz wrote:Who plays center for the Suns? They don't use a center in their offense. Boozer basically plays center for the Jazz and he would do so in Phoenix as well.

Which is a big problem in Utah, and you know that.

As for the reason why they do it...simple...Phoenix has chemistry issues and needs a shake up.

Are you sure you arent mistaking them with the Jazz? Even after all the talk of chemistry issues in Phoenix, they are the top team in the west. And what they need is post defense......not a slow footed, short power forward that cant run with the Suns for more than 25 mpg.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:06 am
by JDubJazz
The reason Booz struggles so much on D is because the Jazz constantly put him on an island. The suns don't do that. Boozer's defense would be much easier to hide in the Suns system than in the jazz's.

Boozer is not slow footed and he would have zero trouble thriving in Phoenix's offense. Especilly since he is the best off-hand scorer in the NBA and can catch the ball anywhere in the paint and score, since he can use both hands equally well from 10 feet in.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:11 am
by yunggunz
JDubJazz wrote:The reason Booz struggles so much on D is because the Jazz constantly put him on an island. The suns don't do that. Boozer's defense would be much easier to hide in the Suns system than in the jazz's.


Why would Boozers poor defense be hidden in the Suns system? That makes no sense. Its not like they have a shot blocking big to back up Boozer. Any team with Boozer at the 5 isnt going to be able to mask his shite D.


Boozer is not slow footed and he would have zero trouble thriving in Phoenix's offense. Especilly since he is the best off-hand scorer in the NBA and can catch the ball anywhere in the paint and score, since he can use both hands equally well from 10 feet in.


Boozer isnt slow footef? Is that a joke?

Boozer can thrive in any offense, but the Phoenix run and gun system sure as hell isnt going to accentuate his offensive abilities.



Look, its not a bad deal value wise, but boozer is a god awful fit (especially as a C) in Phoenix.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:54 am
by Hard2dhole
Jazz trade 2 starters (including an excellent defender at SG) for 1 and pay more to do it with the upside being a slight improvement on interior defense.
Jazz say no Easily.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:56 am
by Dozer!
Boozer has a better post game and is the better rebounder. Boozers not as flashy but I would rather have him on the Jazz. This trade would not make the Jazz better.