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ATL, PHI, SAC, and NYK (IDEA)

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:06 pm
by chriswebb86
So I am just throwing this trade out there. I really am not sure if I like it. There may need to be picks added, but this is just a general idea and teak it if you want.

Atlanta Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +7.4 ppg, -1.2 rpg, and +7.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Francisco Garcia
Brad Miller
Andre Miller
Outgoing Players
Shelden Williams
Josh Childress
Zaza Pachulia
Marvin Williams
Speedy Claxton

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +0.2 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and +1.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Ron Artest
Kenny Thomas
Outgoing Players
Randolph Morris
David Lee
Fred Jones
Malik Rose

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -11.2 ppg, -0.2 rpg, and -4.0 apg.
Incoming Players
Shelden Williams
Marvin Williams
Speedy Claxton
David Lee
Fred Jones
Malik Rose
Outgoing Players
Francisco Garcia
Ron Artest
Kenny Thomas
Brad Miller

Philadelphia Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.6 ppg, +5.1 rpg, and -4.6 apg.
Incoming Players
Josh Childress
Zaza Pachulia
Randolph Morris
Outgoing Players
Andre Miller

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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:11 pm
by spidythejoe
You would have to take out Marvin Williams for Atlanta and David Lee from New York.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:12 pm
by LPKingsFan
Then, you'd have to take out the Kings, too.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:21 pm
by chriswebb86
spidythejoe wrote:You would have to take out Marvin Williams for Atlanta and David Lee from New York.
Yeah there would be no way the Kings would move Artest to NYK w/o him. However the Hawks may have some other players the Kings would consider. I also think taking on Speedy should allow for something more.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:40 pm
by IggyTheBEaST
If Childress had a year elft on his deal Id accept for philly, but sixers cant resign both josh and iggy cause they wanna use their money on a big man

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:43 pm
by hermes
judging from the change in team outlook
kings get screwed losing 11 points?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:44 pm
by KF10
We wont trade BOTH Artest and Garcia...At least one goes IMO....

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:30 am
by LPKingsFan
kingsfan10 wrote:We wont trade BOTH Artest and Garcia...At least one goes IMO....


Depends. If you're bringing a high-quality SF back, you can't move one otherwise there's still a minutes crunch with Salmons.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:41 am
by DanTown8587
Why would the Knicks trade for Artest, he seems perfectly fine opting out and going to New York for the MLE.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:05 am
by Bac2Basics
Doesn't Speedy Claxton have about as bad a contract as Kenny Thomas?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:09 am
by Bac2Basics
DanTown8587 wrote:Why would the Knicks trade for Artest, he seems perfectly fine opting out and going to New York for the MLE.


Artest signing for the MLE is about as likely as Ron Paul winning the Presidency, otherwise known as highly unlikely.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:53 am
by chriswebb86
kingsfan10 wrote:We wont trade BOTH Artest and Garcia...At least one goes IMO....
I agree with that completely, but in this we are bringing back Marvin Williams who I think is going to turn into a great player.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:55 am
by chriswebb86
IggyTheBEaST wrote:If Childress had a year elft on his deal Id accept for philly, but sixers cant resign both josh and iggy cause they wanna use their money on a big man
Any idea what kind of money he would command? Also if you traded for him would you have his Bird Rights? If, then I could see you guys making this trade.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:58 am
by chriswebb86
Bac2Basics wrote:Doesn't Speedy Claxton have about as bad a contract as Kenny Thomas?
I think he has two years left. So it would be one less year. Also if we are looking at the 09 offseason to target freeagents then we would have his contract off by then. Also we could then look at moving Bibby for exp contracts.

hermes wrote:judging from the change in team outlook
kings get screwed losing 11 points?
You cant look at that at point production at all. You have to look at the players you are getting back and in a trade like this we would be getting back some young players; Lee, Williams, and Williams, which for me would be a bright future with who we are giving up.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:20 am
by RIPskaterdude
Maybe a good trade in NBA Live, but too big to be realistic in real life...

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:26 am
by chriswebb86
xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:Maybe a good trade in NBA Live, but too big to be realistic in real life...
Yeah I would agree with that. I guess you could look at The Kings/NYK as being almost a separate trade.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:46 pm
by sec-106
Pass for the Sixers.