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Bibby for Marvin/Lorenzen Wright/ Claxton

Very tempting. If Bibby were a couple years younger, yes. Marvin is too much to give up. 22 and looking like a future all-star.

As much as I like Bibby, I wouldn't offer more than Chil or Shelden, Lue, Lo and maybe a second or future protected first.

Don't think the Kings do it. Claxton's deal sucks and I, for one, don't think Marvin is really that good at all. Further, the Kings would need him to play PF (with Garcia/Salmons at SF longterm) and he just isn't the type of PF that the Kings need.

hawks didn't pass on deron and cp3 to give marvin for bibby.

IggyTheKing wrote:hawks didn't pass on deron and cp3 to give marvin for bibby.

The Pistons probably didn't pass on Melo, Bosh, & Wade to trade Darko for cap space.

IggyTheKing wrote:hawks didn't pass on deron and cp3 to give marvin for bibby.

That's nonsensical thinking. They passed on Paul and Williams because they thought Marvin was going to be better, and they thought wrong. That has nothing to do with Williams' value now.

imho they still belive marvin can be a great player.i personaly doubt that.

Drafting Marvin instead of Paul or Williams was not for the same project. Paul would have been a big improvement and the team would not have got the same picks the following year. The project were not the same. Utah had their team, they sucked one year and got Deron at PG which was their only position to fix. ATL had more positions to fix. The real mistake was Shelden at 5 the following year.

About Marvin, he's only 21, and starts to get his game this year, being more aggressive. He already got almost the same FTA than last season. And his mid-range jump-shoot is starting to be very effective. But you have to see him play some games to understand what player he can be in some years.

But I agree this trade is not what SAC needs with the current roster, but it's not what ATL needs too. I would like to see Bibby with Joe, but not at the price of Marvin.

As an Atlanta fan, picking Marvin over CP3 and Deron was a mistake. However that doesn't mean that Marvin isn't developing into a good player or should be traded for an expensive rental (no way does Bibby get resigned at the end of his current deal at same price). If Bibby was the last piece in a title run it might make sense, but even with him at PG the team is still flawed and is really still a lower level playoff team and a quick exit. BTW, I'm not trying to bash Bibby, he's still a very good player in my eyes. He just makes more than the Hawks can handle for what he provides.

Marvin has another year on his rookie deal. Unless blown away by an offer he'll get the full time to prove his worth before Atlanta has to make a decision on him.

Agreed with the general opinion. Hawks shouldn't give up on Marvin (or take on the extra money next year with both Josh's up for extension). Their window is not closing and they don't need to make quick fixes at the expense of their better young players.

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The Pistons probably didn't pass on Melo, Bosh, & Wade to trade Darko for cap space.

Set and match.

rpa wrote:The Pistons probably didn't pass on Melo, Bosh, & Wade to trade Darko for cap space.

Good point, but you can't talk like that for all the teams. Pistons were already contender, and were and are able to live with that. Cap space and the 15th pick in last draft make more sense in Detroit than anywhere else since they succeed in building a team where the players all wanted to get less than they could, while being able to stay together and have a chance to the Finals is more important than more money (except for Ben Wallace ).

Bibby is not worth Marvin. The Hawks should make a run at Andre Miller; the cost won't be so high.

IggyTheKing wrote:hawks didn't pass on deron and cp3 to give marvin for bibby.

ya i don't think the hawks do it