Seattle/Toronto

resurrection · Post #1 » by **resurrection** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:16 pm

Seattle Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -2.2 ppg, -2.8 rpg, and -1.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Joey Graham
6-7 SF from Oklahoma State
4.3 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.3 apg in 10.6 minutes
Juan Dixon
6-3 PG from Maryland
4.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 1.6 apg in 12.3 minutes
Andrea Bargnani
7-0 PF from Italy (Foreign)
8.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.3 minutes
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Toronto Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +2.2 ppg, +2.8 rpg, and +1.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Delonte West
6-4 SG from St. Joseph's
7.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.3 apg in 20.9 minutes
Chris Wilcox
6-10 PF from Maryland
12.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes

And a late first or second round pick
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Toronto needs wilcox on the boards and someone like west to take some of calderons minutes...and when ford comes back west can be used at the 2, his more natural position.
Seattle is rebuilding and green, bargnani, and durant would be a good foundation for them.

D5150 · Post #2 » by **D5150** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:18 pm

what about expanding that deal or altering it to include watson or ridour and calderon?

Post #3 » by **Schad** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:20 pm

Toronto definitely has no interest in trading Calderon and Bargnani for Wilcox, West and Watson/Ridnour. There's a huge dropoff between the point guards being swapped in that scenario.

D5150 · Post #4 » by **D5150** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:22 pm

maybe, but wilcox is having a better season than bargnani, you cant deny that.

resurrection · Post #5 » by **resurrection** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:23 pm

Calderon is a keeper.....a lot of teams want him....and a lot of ppl on these boards do....but the fact is he isnt going anywhere ppl....remember we fired babcock...colangelo is our gm now...no more stealing from the raptors!

Silk Wilkes · Post #6 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:29 pm

I'll take the original for Toronto. We might think about including a 2nd rounder but that's as far as it goes.

Yoshi2kx · Post #7 » by **Yoshi2kx** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:35 pm

We already have enough 2nd rounders, no deal then, because West > Graham + Dixon Wilcox > Bargnani

omeloon · Post #8 » by **omeloon** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:26 am

Good enough trade. I'd probably include our first (lotto protected), but I'd certainly be hesistant about giving up on Bargs so early.

S0yb3anB0y · Post #9 » by **S0yb3anB0y** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:21 am

What about TJ Ford? Seattle can include Ridnour or Watson for TJ Ford.

DanTown8587 · Post #10 » by **DanTown8587** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:26 am

I wonder how well Wilcox or Bosh would play the 5 because Wilcox is at his best of the bench and Bosh has shown he cannot play decent C in this league on a regular basis on a high level.

S0yb3anB0y · Post #11 » by **S0yb3anB0y** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:30 am

Successful Trade Scenario
Congratulations on a successful trade.

Due to Seattle and Toronto being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Seattle and Toronto had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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Seattle Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -5.0 ppg, -10.7 rpg, and -2.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Jorge Garbajosa
6-9 PF from Spain (Foreign)
3.1 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.5 minutes
Andrea Bargnani
7-0 PF from Italy (Foreign)
8.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.3 minutes
Rasho Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia (Foreign)
4.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 0.9 apg in 16.7 minutes
T.J. Ford
5-11 PG from Texas
14.1 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 6.8 apg in 25.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Delonte West
6-4 SG from St. Joseph's
7.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.3 apg in 20.9 minutes
Earl Watson
6-1 PG from UCLA
8.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 6.3 apg in 27.3 minutes
Chris Wilcox
6-10 PF from Maryland
12.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes
Kurt Thomas
6-9 PF / C from Texas Christian
6.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.4 apg in 25.5 minutes

Toronto Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +5.0 ppg, +10.7 rpg, and +2.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Delonte West
6-4 SG from St. Joseph's
7.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.3 apg in 20.9 minutes
Earl Watson
6-1 PG from UCLA
8.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 6.3 apg in 27.3 minutes
Chris Wilcox
6-10 PF from Maryland
12.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes
Kurt Thomas
6-9 PF / C from Texas Christian
6.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.4 apg in 25.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jorge Garbajosa
6-9 PF from Spain (Foreign)
3.1 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.5 minutes
Andrea Bargnani
7-0 PF from Italy (Foreign)
8.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.3 minutes
Rasho Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia (Foreign)
4.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 0.9 apg in 16.7 minutes
T.J. Ford
5-11 PG from Texas
14.1 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 6.8 apg in 25.8 minutes

zong · Post #12 » by **zong** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:02 am

S0yb3anB0y wrote:Successful Trade Scenario
Congratulations on a successful trade.

Due to Seattle and Toronto being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Seattle and Toronto had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Trade ID
Trade ID #4425275

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Try Another Trade or visit our Trade Forum.
Seattle Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -5.0 ppg, -10.7 rpg, and -2.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Jorge Garbajosa
6-9 PF from Spain (Foreign)
3.1 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.5 minutes
Andrea Bargnani
7-0 PF from Italy (Foreign)
8.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.3 minutes
Rasho Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia (Foreign)
4.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 0.9 apg in 16.7 minutes
T.J. Ford
5-11 PG from Texas
14.1 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 6.8 apg in 25.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Delonte West
6-4 SG from St. Joseph's
7.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.3 apg in 20.9 minutes
Earl Watson
6-1 PG from UCLA
8.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 6.3 apg in 27.3 minutes
Chris Wilcox
6-10 PF from Maryland
12.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes
Kurt Thomas
6-9 PF / C from Texas Christian
6.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.4 apg in 25.5 minutes

Toronto Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +5.0 ppg, +10.7 rpg, and +2.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Delonte West
6-4 SG from St. Joseph's
7.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.3 apg in 20.9 minutes
Earl Watson
6-1 PG from UCLA
8.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 6.3 apg in 27.3 minutes
Chris Wilcox
6-10 PF from Maryland
12.9 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes
Kurt Thomas
6-9 PF / C from Texas Christian
6.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.4 apg in 25.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jorge Garbajosa
6-9 PF from Spain (Foreign)
3.1 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.5 minutes
Andrea Bargnani
7-0 PF from Italy (Foreign)
8.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.3 minutes
Rasho Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia (Foreign)
4.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 0.9 apg in 16.7 minutes
T.J. Ford
5-11 PG from Texas
14.1 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 6.8 apg in 25.8 minutes

lazy copy and pasting ...

NH · Post #13 » by NH » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:02 am

Hmm I like the original trade. Wilcox can be the C the Raps need,while Bargnani and Durant front court looks good as well.