Knicks/Sixers Simple Swap!

N.O.R.E. · Post #1 » by **N.O.R.E.** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:35 am

Knicks get: Andre Miller, Reggie Evans, Willie Green
Sixers get: Zach Randolph, Fred Jones (expiring).

Knicks get a PG and a rebounding PF.
Sixers get a low post scorer to pair with Dalembert (their contracts expire the same year also).

pakula's pizza · Post #2 » by **pakula's pizza** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:46 am

Ill take it

#1knickfan · Post #3 » by **#1knickfan** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:46 am

N.O.R.E. wrote:Knicks get: Andre Miller, Reggie Evans, Willie Green
Sixers get: Zach Randolph, Fred Jones (expiring).

Knicks get a PG and a rebounding PF.
Sixers get a low post scorer to pair with Dalembert (their contracts expire the same year also).

I like it.

yungal07 · Post #4 » by **yungal07** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:01 am

Why would the Sixers want the the basketball equivalent of an STD on their team? The Sixers have alot of young impressionable players - they don't need their heads being polluted by the stench of cancer known as Snack Randolf...

Post #5 » by **The Guilty Party** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:55 am

If the Sixers didn't have cap space coming to them this summer... I'd do this deal. However, the team already has enough space to make a serious run at some restricted free agent PFs (Okafor and Josh Smith) and if they strike out there... I'm sure they'll look around and make a trade for a player using that space.

Should Ed Stefanski strike out with getting a PF thru free agency/the draft/a trade... I think this could be Plan D.

Post #6 » by **loserX** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:11 am

The Guilty Party wrote:If the Sixers didn't have cap space coming to them this summer... I'd do this deal. However, the team already has enough space to make a serious run at some restricted free agent PFs (Okafor and Josh Smith) and if they strike out there... I'm sure they'll look around and make a trade for a player using that space.

Should Ed Stefanski strike out with getting a PF thru free agency/the draft/a trade... I think this could be Plan D.

I agree...if the Sixers fail to find a PF under other circumstances, they may consider this. Of course, that would be in the off-season, so Jones couldn't be involved (thus shrinking the deal...but the general idea is fine).

ITK9 · Post #7 » by **ITK9** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:33 am

phila pass.i doubt mo wants to work again with zach

DanTown8587 · Post #8 » by **DanTown8587** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:22 am

Philly passes, even though talent level is about the same, the trade kills upcoming cap room.

Post #9 » by **warriorfan650** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:57 am

The Guilty Party wrote:If the Sixers didn't have cap space coming to them this summer... I'd do this deal. However, the team already has enough space to make a serious run at some restricted free agent PFs (Okafor and Josh Smith) and if they strike out there... I'm sure they'll look around and make a trade for a player using that space.

Should Ed Stefanski strike out with getting a PF thru free agency/the draft/a trade... I think this could be Plan D.

I was kind of leaning towards liking the deal until I read this. I would definately throw money at a younger, less headache giving PF if we had the caproom.

Jemini80 · Post #10 » by **Jemini80** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:59 am

yungal07 wrote:Why would the Sixers want the the basketball equivalent of an STD on their team? The Sixers have alot of young impressionable players - they don't need their heads being polluted by the stench of cancer known as Snack Randolf...

You are an idiot. It is sad how people love to single out one player on a team and say he is a cancer. Randolph wants to win and he does pass, he gets a bad rap for not passing, but every player is selfish every once and awhile.

This comment is either coming from someone who doesn't know what is really going on and just believes the media, OR you are a Curry, Crawford, or marbury fan.

If Randolph is a cancer, than David Lee is a cancer as well, considering Randolph plays better D than Lee, and Lee has been just as selfish this year with his chucking up stupid shots, making stupid turnovers, and not helping on D because he doesn't want to risk his man scoring so he looks bad.

there is not one good real basketball player on this team and I would trade anyone on this roster for a real basketball player like Shane Battier or AK-47.

drj · Post #11 » by **drj** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:31 am

The Guilty Party wrote:If the Sixers didn't have cap space coming to them this summer... I'd do this deal. However, the team already has enough space to make a serious run at some restricted free agent PFs (Okafor and Josh Smith) and if they strike out there... I'm sure they'll look around and make a trade for a player using that space.

Should Ed Stefanski strike out with getting a PF thru free agency/the draft/a trade... I think this could be Plan D.

This trade should give Philly MORE cap space this offseason, not less. After all, Philly receives an expiring contract in Fred Jones and trades away no expirings.

More precisely:
Zach is due 14.7m next season, Fred Jones 0 (expiring) = 14.7m
Dre is due 10m next season, Evans 4.6m, Willie 3.4m = 18m

So correct me if I'm doing the math wrong, but it looks like Philly should have 3.3m MORE cap space if they make this deal.

N.O.R.E. · Post #12 » by **N.O.R.E.** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:09 am

^Thanks for the research, I agree with other posters saying they would rather Josh Smith or Okafur, however I think its highly unlikely Atlanta or Charlotte let them walk irrespective of the cost. Both franchises have to much to lose just letting some of their top players leave without compensation.

#1knickfan · Post #13 » by **#1knickfan** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:17 pm

N.O.R.E. wrote:^Thanks for the research, I agree with other posters saying they would rather Josh Smith or Okafur, however I think its highly unlikely Atlanta or Charlotte let them walk irrespective of the cost. Both franchises have to much to lose just letting some of their top players leave without compensation.

I agree. I think that while its nice to hope you can get guys like Smith or Okafur during free agency the likelyhood of them hitting the open market is very very unlikely. Even if they do hit the open market from what I understand both are restricted free agents. So unless the 76ers are looking to throw around Rashard Lewis type money I am pretty sure Smith and Okafor's teams would match any offer.

ponder719 · Post #14 » by **ponder719** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:24 pm

drj wrote:This trade should give Philly MORE cap space this offseason, not less. After all, Philly receives an expiring contract in Fred Jones and trades away no expirings.

More precisely:
Zach is due 14.7m next season, Fred Jones 0 (expiring) = 14.7m
Dre is due 10m next season, Evans 4.6m, Willie 3.4m = 18m

So correct me if I'm doing the math wrong, but it looks like Philly should have 3.3m MORE cap space if they make this deal.

That's assuming the alternative to making this trade is keeping what we have. As I understand it, barring something very strange, Evans and Green at least will be moved somehow, with expirings coming back. Evans and Green out for expirings will dump 8 million off the books without making a hole at PG, giving us 18-20 million to play with, instead of 13-15 (since I've heard conflicting reports as to whether we'll have 10 or 12 if we stick with what we've done.)

#1knickfan · Post #15 » by **#1knickfan** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:27 pm

I like Evans as a player and Green doesn't seem to be too bad either but everyone wants expiring contracts and I find it unlikely that these 2 will net you one.

Post #16 » by **gswhoops** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:32 pm

#1knickfan wrote:I like Evans as a player and Green doesn't seem to be too bad either but everyone wants expiring contracts and I find it unlikely that these 2 will net you one.

Agreed. Evans is a nice player, Green....ummmm...

But both are worth less than their contracts IMO so you'd have to sweeten the pot to get expirings.

#1knickfan · Post #17 » by **#1knickfan** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:47 pm

gswhoops wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Agreed. Evans is a nice player, Green....ummmm...

But both are worth less than their contracts IMO so you'd have to sweeten the pot to get expirings.

Well from what I have read about his game Green seems to be similar to Nate Robinson while still undersized for the 2 spot much taller than Nate.

hermes · Post #18 » by **hermes** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:24 pm

it seems fair
but i don't think philly wants zach

sec-106 · Post #19 » by **sec-106** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:27 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:If the Sixers didn't have cap space coming to them this summer... I'd do this deal. However, the team already has enough space to make a serious run at some restricted free agent PFs (Okafor and Josh Smith) and if they strike out there... I'm sure they'll look around and make a trade for a player using that space.

Should Ed Stefanski strike out with getting a PF thru free agency/the draft/a trade... I think this could be Plan D.

Plan F.