Wizards - Wolves

[omeloon]

Jaric, Madsen, and Buckner

for

D. Stevenson and Etan Thomas (sit on IL, his contract expires year earlier than Jaric's)

Minny basically does this to save long term money and to open up a roster spot. Minny saves $2.5 mill this year and another $2.5 mill next season, which will help them re-sign some of their young players. Getting out of Jaric's contract will also help further down the line. Will free $8 mill from teh cap Jaric's last year on contract.

Washington does this because they need the depth. Jaric helps fills in for Arenas. Buckner provides some decent defense. They only lose one current rotation player.

[yungal07]

That's awful for the Wiz. Stevenson is better than anyone the Wiz get back in return, and aside from Jaric, none of those bums would get any playing time on the Wizards. Even Jaric would get relegated to 6th guard duties after Arenas comes back.

[jeremy1215]

Yeah thats kinda bad for the Wizards, and I don't think the T'Wolves got much to make it better. They certainly shouldn't add picks.

[omeloon]

Well the Wolves could always give Gerrald Green away for a scrub on an ending contract. Not like they're going to re-sign him anyways

[omeloon]

That's awful for the Wiz. Stevenson is better than anyone the Wiz get back in return, and aside from Jaric, none of those bums would get any playing time on the Wizards. Even Jaric would get relegated to 6th guard duties after Arenas comes back.

Jaric's shooting the ball better than Stevenson. Not sure why Stevenson's that much better than him. Jaric has more size than Stevnson, so can play both guard positions. Statistically Jaric beats Stevenson in most things. All but rebounds, and even that is pretty much identical.

[miller31time]

^^ Defense. So far this season, Stevenson has been a top-10 perimeter defender in the NBA.

[yungal07]

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Jaric's shooting the ball better than Stevenson. Not sure why Stevenson's that much better than him. Jaric has more size than Stevnson, so can play both guard positions. Statistically Jaric beats Stevenson in most things. All but rebounds, and even that is pretty much identical.

Defensively, Stevenson is one of the better defenders in the NBA. Some on the Wiz board have argued that he's a top 10 perimeter defender in the NBA (although I wouldn't go that far). What he does for the Wiz doesn't show up on the statsheet.

Jaric is certainly not worth an extra year.

[4ho5ive]

I dont know much about Stevenson, but to call him Top-10 in perimeter D is kind of a stretch of the imagination dont you think? Maybe im wrong. Dont underestimate Jaric's D however as he can also play the 3 spot successfully. I dont see why the wolves want Stevenson and Etan cant even play. Im not sure we do this either.

[GopherIt!]

Mr. Fifty and Marko are both quality defenders. That being said, Mr. Fifty is listed at 6-5 and if I am not mistaken more like 6-4ish while Marko is a full 6-7. That height difference would certainly help the Wiz defensively against taller (6-8/6-9/6-10) wings. It is especially helpful against teams that are able to create mismatches by featuring a pair of taller wings like Orlando and Atlanta.

Plus a few other astute posters have noted that when you have a superstar guard like Gil who prefers/needs to have the ball in their hands, a complimentary guard with some point skills, like Marko, is perhaps the best back court mate. (Think about the type of guards who lined up next to Jordan, Kobe, etc. on their championship runs.)

Versatility is part of Marko's charm and something to consider when comparing him to other players like Fifty. Right now, if the Wolves weren't rebuilding I wouldn't trade Marko. He may still have a somewhat negative trade value because of his contract but on the court, he has become an underrated asset.

I like Etan Thomas and the Wolves need help at center. I think a deal involving Thomas for Jaric would help both teams.

[shrink]

I like Etan Thomas and the Wolves need help at center. I think a deal involving Thomas for Jaric would help both teams.

WAS posters have proposed an Etan-for-Marko switch for a long time, and MIN posters have routinely said "no." However, while Etan's still only a year shorter, we get closer and closer to that year. Al Jefferson needs to be paired with a center who will play defense and bang underneath, and regardless of the negatives people have about Etan, he's always had the heart to throw his body around. Maybe its time to look more closely.

[legacyinthemakin89c]

The Wiz are over performing right now without Arenas and a big reason for that is the chemistry this team shares with each other, I don't see any reason to alter that, especially in the starting lineup.

[MN Die Hard]

WAS posters have proposed an Etan-for-Marko switch for a long time, and MIN posters have routinely said "no."

I think most MN poster have declined that, and to tell the truth I dont know why. I would accept that offer in a heartbeat.

[hermes]

wizards decline

[Ruzious]

Jaric, Madsen, and Buckner

for

D. Stevenson and Etan Thomas (sit on IL, his contract expires year earlier than Jaric's)

Minny basically does this to save long term money and to open up a roster spot. Minny saves $2.5 mill this year and another $2.5 mill next season, which will help them re-sign some of their young players. Getting out of Jaric's contract will also help further down the line. Will free $8 mill from teh cap Jaric's last year on contract.

Washington does this because they need the depth. Jaric helps fills in for Arenas. Buckner provides some decent defense. They only lose one current rotation player.

Washington is right up to the lux tax - almost to the penny, so this would cost them the extra salary - doubled - plus losing lux tax proceeds. And it wouldn't improve the team - as Stevenson is a starter and fills his role beautifully.

[GopherIt!]

Just responding to a couple posts...

Marko for Thomas shouldn't affect team chemistry negatively


Fair point on salary.

"it wouldn't improve the team - as Stevenson is a starter and fills his role beautifully."

So when Orlando gets Battie back and 6-10 Turky goes back to the two position are you going to send Stevenson in there to defend him?

[yungal07]

Just responding to a couple posts...

Marko for Thomas shouldn't affect team chemistry negatively


Fair point on salary.

"it wouldn't improve the team - as Stevenson is a starter and fills his role beautifully."

So when Orlando gets Battie back and 6-10 Turky goes back to the two position are you going to send Stevenson in there to defend him?

yes because the turk is soft and shoots mostly jumpshots. and marko would have a height disadvantage as well.

in conclusion, stevenson is a better defender and overall fit for the wizards.

[nate33]

Just responding to a couple posts...

Marko for Thomas shouldn't affect team chemistry negatively


Fair point on salary.

"it wouldn't improve the team - as Stevenson is a starter and fills his role beautifully."

So when Orlando gets Battie back and 6-10 Turky goes back to the two position are you going to send Stevenson in there to defend him?

Stevenson could guard Turkaglu just as well as Jaric could. But that's not the point. Who cares about one specific matchup? I'd rather have Stevenson guarding the likes of Vince Carter, Joe Johnson, Ray Allen, Dwyane Wade, Rip Hamilton and every other good SG in the East.