lakers, bulls, and pacers

shagadelic45 · Post #1 » by **shagadelic45** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:46 pm

Los Angeles Lakers

Incoming Players

Thabo Sefolosha
Salary: $1,805,160 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.8 REB: 2.6 AST: 1.2 PER: 8.84

Jeff Foster
Salary: $5,500,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.9 REB: 8.4 AST: 1.6 PER: 15.46

Joe Smith
Salary: $5,205,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.6 REB: 5.1 AST: 0.9 PER: 17.66

Ben Wallace
Salary: $15,500,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 4.6 REB: 8.8 AST: 1.9 PER: 11.98

Outgoing Players: Vladimir Radmanovic, Sasha Vujacic, Chris Mihm, Trevor Ariza, Kwame Brown, 2008 #1

PG:Fisher-Farmar-Crittenton
SG:Kobe-Sefolosha-Karl
SF:Odom-Walton
PF:Smith-Turaif
C:Wallace-Foster-Bynum-Mbenga

Chicago Bulls

Incoming Players

Vladimir Radmanovic
Salary: $5,632,200 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 7.4 REB: 2.7 AST: 1.6 PER: 11.31

Jermaine O'Neal
Salary: $19,728,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 15.3 REB: 7.3 AST: 2.5 PER: 15.61

Sasha Vujacic
Salary: $1,756,951 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 6.3 REB: 1.4 AST: 1.0 PER: 15.42

Outgoing Players: Thabo Sefolosha, Joe Smith, Ben Wallace, 2008 #1

PG:Hinrich-Duhon
SG:Gordon-Griffin
SF:Deng-Radman
PF:Nocioni-Thomas
C:Oneal-Noah-Hawes

Indiana Pacers

Incoming Players

Chris Mihm
Salary: $2,500,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 4.1 REB: 3.7 AST: 0.6 PER: 8.91

Trevor Ariza
Salary: $3,100,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.5 REB: 3.1 AST: 1.3 PER: 16.20

Kwame Brown
Salary: $9,075,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.4 REB: 5.4 AST: 1.2 PER: 9.31

2008 #1 (CHI)

2008 #1 (LAL)

Outgoing Players: Jermaine O'Neal, Jeff Foster

PG:Tinsley
SG:Dunleavy-Daniels-Rush
SF:Granger-Ariza
PF:Murphy-Diogu
C:Brown-Mihm

hermes · Post #2 » by **hermes** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:30 pm

pacers would want more value for JO
lakers don't want to take on wallace's contract

Jajwanda · Post #3 » by **Jajwanda** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:34 pm

hermes wrote:pacers would want more value for JO
lakers don't want to take on wallace's contract

I fail to see what kind of value Pacer fans expect for Jermaine O'Neal?....

If I'm management I'm trying to find ways to get rid of his salary and save fifty million any way possible.

Post #4 » by **pacers33granger** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:09 pm

if we trade oneal its to get quality young players back, maybe picks, and some salary relief, but we arent trying to dump him. i wouldnt trade foster for any of the players we get back. the picks would be nice, but the lakers would be mid to late 20s more than likely and id assume the bulls would be lotto protected.

also, i would understand if the lakers wanted wallace, but bynum would not become a third string center, he would still be starting.

Cammo101 · Post #5 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:09 pm

Chicago gets JO by dumping Wallace. Not happening.

Jajwanda · Post #6 » by **Jajwanda** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:25 pm

pacers33granger wrote:if we trade oneal its to get quality young players back, maybe picks, and some salary relief, but we arent trying to dump him. i wouldnt trade foster for any of the players we get back. the picks would be nice, but the lakers would be mid to late 20s more than likely and id assume the bulls would be lotto protected.

also, i would understand if the lakers wanted wallace, but bynum would not become a third string center, he would still be starting.

You yourselves may not be but I guarantee your management is. If any team offered enough expirings tommorow I get the feeling the upper management would bite on it easily.

As I've said a number of times 50m is a huge deal to any organization. You may think oh ok we're not going to have cap space, but money isn't endless regardless.

Friend_Of_Haley · Post #7 » by **Friend_Of_Haley** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:36 pm

As a Bulls fan I'm not crazy about the idea of JO. Plus I don't see the Bulls being able to absorb the salary in such a deal. We'd be better off buying out Wallace and using the other pieces in deals where they weren't combined with negative trade value (Wallace).

Post #8 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:45 pm

Jajwanda wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You yourselves may not be but I guarantee your management is. If any team offered enough expirings tommorow I get the feeling the upper management would bite on it easily.

As I've said a number of times 50m is a huge deal to any organization. You may think oh ok we're not going to have cap space, but money isn't endless regardless.

Absolutely. That's why LA is looking to give up Kobe for expirings, right?

I mean, if $50 million is a lot for any owner, then wouldn't it be a lot for Jerry Buss? He's 'any' owner....

CableKC · Post #9 » by **CableKC** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:38 pm

I like how the Lakers only give up Kwame'e Expiring Contract, their 1st round draft pick, Ariza and a whole bunch of useless filler to get the majority of the best players in the deal.

Take out players like Joe Smith, Jeff Foster ( both players that the Bulls nor the Pacers want to give up ) and VladRad ( a player that no one wants ) and make it more simplier.

Post #10 » by **pacers33granger** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:07 am

Jajwanda wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You yourselves may not be but I guarantee your management is. If any team offered enough expirings tommorow I get the feeling the upper management would bite on it easily.

As I've said a number of times 50m is a huge deal to any organization. You may think oh ok we're not going to have cap space, but money isn't endless regardless.

im not trying to say that management isnt looking to save money, if they can then thats great, but its obvious we arent looking to dump oneals salary. we need some semblance of young talent or good draft picks back. if we were simply looking to cut salary, im sure the lakers would have parted with kwame and odom for oneal.