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Turkoglu...what would you give up to have him on your team?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:39 am
by parso15
Turkoglu...what would you give up to have him on your team?
6-10 G/F
19.5 PPG
6.0 RPG
4.7 APG
FG: .443
3P: .388
FT: .832
Salary: 6.373 mio
Firstly would you mind having him on your team? If no why not if yes who would you be willing to let go for him?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:51 am
by Teddy KGB
who would mind having turk lol
as for dallas i dunno, i dont think we have enough to get it done.
Jason Terry?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:05 am
by 20veinte20
Assuming we don't win the championship or get close...
I'd swap Odom for Turkoglu.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:17 am
by parso15
20veinte20 wrote:Assuming we don't win the championship or get close...
I'd swap Odom for Turkoglu.
Orlando would need to involve other players for salary purposes but it might work since the Magic need a PF. However Hedo's numbers would go down playing allongside Kobe I guess. Still he is the kind of player who does more than just score...
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:23 am
by EvadedHavoc
Tony Allen.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:05 pm
by triplet1984
Jarvis Hayes. Maybe also Aaron Afflalo.
Sounds like I'm dissing Turk but I'm not, it's just the makeup of the Pistons. I wouldn't trade the "big 4" for him. The weakest starter (McDyess) and the 6th man (Maxiell) are big men, and trading a useful big man for a talented G/F doesn't make much sense for the Pistons. Amir is a freak of nature and should be kept. That just leaves the rookies (Stuckey, our PG of the future, who we need to keep)... so Hayes and Afflalo I'd give up for him.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:09 pm
by robertjanssen007
EvadedHavoc wrote:Tony Allen.
that's homerific. Hayes as well. Teams LOVE to overrate their youth.
I'll say Bargnani + large contract.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:13 pm
by TruSkool
wow, i always thought turkoglu would be the perfect fit for the current lakers team.
id give up radmanovich+vujacic
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:13 pm
by gswhoops
Warriors can't really make an offer.
Baron and Jackson are obviously off the table, we need Harrington's size, and no one else has enough salary to make a deal work.
Although if we could swing a deal for a legit PF, I'd be open to something centered around Harrington for Hedo.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:14 pm
by gswhoops
robertjanssen007 wrote:Hayes as well. Teams LOVE to overrate their youth.
Did you even read Da-Met's post?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:14 pm
by EvadedHavoc
robertjanssen007 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
that's homerific. Hayes as well. Teams LOVE to overrate their youth.
I'll say Bargnani + large contract.
Actually losing Tony Allen would be too much of a loss. Maybe Glen Davis would be a better deal.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:22 pm
by CBS7
He's redundant, so nothing.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:32 pm
by Liqourish
gswhoops wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Did you even read Da-Met's post?
Of course he didn't, then he couldn't complain about the suggestion and would have nothing to contribute.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:07 pm
by zong
Kapono + Parker + 09 1st for Hedo and filler
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:11 pm
by tranjSAIC
As a Magic fan, I say this. He won't be as good on other teams as he is on the Magic. On the Magic he is pretty much our number 1 scoring option, plus he has alot of room to operate. On other teams I doubt he gets the looks he is currently getting now.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:37 pm
by Cammo101
Most of these offers are a joke. Turk is averaging 20,5,4 and is 6th in the league in 4th quarter scoring. Turk is worth much more to Orlando than Odom, let alone a lot of the other jokers being brought up. Turk is our #1 scorer and one of the best closers in the league, all while being on a great contract. He pretty much is the anti-Odom. Turk single handedly beat NJ last night fouling out Jefferson and Carter in the process.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:38 pm
by ecuhus1981
"Single-handedly" is a bit of hyperbole, considering he's playing with the new Superman...
But your points are valid, Cammo101. I think tranjSAIC hit the nail on the head; he's in an ideal situation to maximize his talents.
As for Da-Met's offer and the like: I sort of agree with the poster that called it homeriffic. Obviously, Da-Met was not trying to say "Hedo = Arron+Jarvis". But I feel whenever someone doesn't just come out and say "we are not in a position to make a competitive offer" or something along those lines, it adds to dark cloud of homerism on this board.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:51 pm
by ecuhus1981
gswhoops wrote:Warriors can't really make an offer.
Baron and Jackson are obviously off the table, we need Harrington's size, and no one else has enough salary to make a deal work.
Although if we could swing a deal for a legit PF, I'd be open to something centered around Harrington for Hedo.
At first glance, this post makes sense. But upon re-examination, I am puzzled.
What exactly do you mean you need Al's size? Harrington is an inch shorter than Turkoglu. As for his bulk, he doesn't use it often enough for that to be a point of contention with the trade, IMO. And his "size" sure doesn't account for more steals, blocks or rebounds per game, as Hedo has him beat in all of those categories.
Personally, I think a Harrington+Pietrus for Hedo swap would be good for both sides. Nellie would probably love to run Davis-Ellis-Jackson-Turkoglu-Webber, even if you may not.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:20 pm
by ecuhus1981
As for what the Nets would offer, I think Hedo's true market value is right around where Mike Miller's is. We had a standing offer to MEM of expirings and a 1st for him; this offer obviously didn't distinguish itself enough from the crowd of teams offering pacckages for Mike near the deadline.
So, NJ would certainly go Swift+1st for Hedo. Thorn'd probably add Marcus (though I wouldn't). How much more, I don't know.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:29 pm
by SOUL
Cammo101 wrote:Most of these offers are a joke. Turk is averaging 20,5,4 and is 6th in the league in 4th quarter scoring. Turk is worth much more to Orlando than Odom, let alone a lot of the other jokers being brought up. Turk is our #1 scorer and one of the best closers in the league, all while being on a great contract. He pretty much is the anti-Odom. Turk single handedly beat NJ last night fouling out Jefferson and Carter in the process.
Not really, this is his first year producing. I have no doubt he can avg this in the future but nobodys going to offer a superstar, or their best prospects.. cmon.