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NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST.

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Re: NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST. 

Post#561 » by ShulaDon92 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:44 am

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abark wrote:You’re eyes are deceiving u if u think Westbrook isn’t terrible. He can put up stats but he’s horribly inefficient and takes away possessions from better players. Lowry sucks but he doesn’t try to do much.

Every player in that trade is trash. The only benefit is that Westbrook’s contract is expiring (which is the biggest positive of any part of the trade). I’m not saying we’ll win anything if we don’t make that move, but we’re definitely doing nothing this year if Westbrook is the PG.


I'd eat a year of Westbrook to get out of Duncan and Lowry's deals if it were vital to getting Miami's finances in order so that re-signing Vincent, Strus, and potentially Oladipo wouldn't be an issue.

Miami has found ways to extract value from seemingly hopeless cases, so it would be an "expect the worst, hope for the best" scenario. Worst case, if Westbrook becomes an issue, you can just have him stay away from the team.

Would we really even be any worse if we made the trade then waived Westbrook? The fact I’m not sure it would make much difference says a lot.


We would be worse from a shooting and IQ standpoint. We would improve from an athletic standpoint.

Westbrook brings a lot of turnovers.
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Re: NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST. 

Post#562 » by SA37 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:24 am

abark wrote:
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abark wrote:You’re eyes are deceiving u if u think Westbrook isn’t terrible. He can put up stats but he’s horribly inefficient and takes away possessions from better players. Lowry sucks but he doesn’t try to do much.

Every player in that trade is trash. The only benefit is that Westbrook’s contract is expiring (which is the biggest positive of any part of the trade). I’m not saying we’ll win anything if we don’t make that move, but we’re definitely doing nothing this year if Westbrook is the PG.


I'd eat a year of Westbrook to get out of Duncan and Lowry's deals if it were vital to getting Miami's finances in order so that re-signing Vincent, Strus, and potentially Oladipo wouldn't be an issue.

Miami has found ways to extract value from seemingly hopeless cases, so it would be an "expect the worst, hope for the best" scenario. Worst case, if Westbrook becomes an issue, you can just have him stay away from the team.

Would we really even be any worse if we made the trade then waived Westbrook? The fact I’m not sure it would make much difference says a lot.


It is going to be REAL interesting to see which teams show interest in Westbrook in FA and what kinds of offers he gets.

Charlotte was supposedly interested in trading for him 1-2 years ago. New York loves wasting money on players. Denver is desperate for talent and might take a shot. You can never rule out Cuban taking a gamble. Brooklyn is a circus, so why not add another clown to the mix? If D'Angelo Russell leaves Minny, I could see them going after Westbrook.
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Re: NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST. 

Post#563 » by SA37 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:29 am

ShulaDon92 wrote:
abark wrote:
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I'd eat a year of Westbrook to get out of Duncan and Lowry's deals if it were vital to getting Miami's finances in order so that re-signing Vincent, Strus, and potentially Oladipo wouldn't be an issue.

Miami has found ways to extract value from seemingly hopeless cases, so it would be an "expect the worst, hope for the best" scenario. Worst case, if Westbrook becomes an issue, you can just have him stay away from the team.

Would we really even be any worse if we made the trade then waived Westbrook? The fact I’m not sure it would make much difference says a lot.


We would be worse from a shooting and IQ standpoint. We would improve from an athletic standpoint.

Westbrook brings a lot of turnovers.


Probably the biggest + Westbrook would bring would be rebounding and intensity. He's just so ball dominant and so poor playing off the ball. He has a reasonable mid-range shot, but he is a poor 3-point shooter and not a guy who can spot up. His commitment to defense is suspect and I think that is in large part because he gets rattled mentally.

I've said this in other threads, but his impact on a team is similar to that of Carmelo Anthony. Melo finally found a way to become a productive player off the bench even if his main contribution was still scoring.
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Re: NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST. 

Post#564 » by abark » Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:13 pm

SA37 wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:
abark wrote:Would we really even be any worse if we made the trade then waived Westbrook? The fact I’m not sure it would make much difference says a lot.


We would be worse from a shooting and IQ standpoint. We would improve from an athletic standpoint.

Westbrook brings a lot of turnovers.


Probably the biggest + Westbrook would bring would be rebounding and intensity. He's just so ball dominant and so poor playing off the ball. He has a reasonable mid-range shot, but he is a poor 3-point shooter and not a guy who can spot up. His commitment to defense is suspect and I think that is in large part because he gets rattled mentally.

I've said this in other threads, but his impact on a team is similar to that of Carmelo Anthony. Melo finally found a way to become a productive player off the bench even if his main contribution was still scoring.

Teams now nearly ignore Westbrook and he ends up allowing the other team to have his man focus on helping out w the other 4 players.

You don’t want him

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