MIAMI HEAT @ TORONTO RAPTORS - Kyle Lowry Returns 2 Canada - Oct. 24 @ 7:30 PM EST

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Yo this is ridiculous. Just say you hate Spo. Cuz some of Ya'll assessments don't match with reality. We were no 1 seed and a shot away from finals last season. And from some of these posts you'd think we were the Sacramento Kings. Its just funny to see

Sure Spo had a bad coaching game last night, it happens to every coach. That doesn't make him a bum. If you are gonna judge a coach do it by his record in the past couple relative to the talent in the roster. And he has over performed

Now this season looking like a dumpster fire. Not because of coaching but roster construction. They lost a PF they didn't replace and going to the season with only 2 playable wings both who are undersized to play the 4. This is the main issue and Riles is the main culprit. Spo is also to blame as he also takes part in roster decision.

Spo and Riley can be critiqued just like the players can. He’s sucked this season, Riley’s been questionable for years now. We’re not maximizing Jimmys window. The double standards on here are ridiculous

The issue is talent they don't have enough elite talent. If we are being honest this is the best they can do with these assets. We tried for KD, they didn't want our picks. We didn't have the picks for Mitchell. We waited a year for Giannis and he went right back to Bucks.
The only trade that we didn't pursue for a top 10 player was Harden and he wanted Philly.
So which trade could they've done to get that 2nd top 15 player to make us real contenders. Mind you we only have two tradeable first round picks and Herro as real assets. You can also add Bam to that

We send a 2nd to OKC and we unlock a 3rd first. This team didn’t need a star, they could’ve got by with 2 high level role players and we have the picks for that. If you want star power we could’ve got Kyrie for Lowry and a 1st. ICC said we had a deal ready for John Collins too. We missed out waiting on KD.

[oreon]

Spo and Riley can be critiqued just like the players can. He’s sucked this season, Riley’s been questionable for years now. We’re not maximizing Jimmys window. The double standards on here are ridiculous

The issue is talent they don't have enough elite talent. If we are being honest this is the best they can do with these assets. We tried for KD, they didn't want our picks. We didn't have the picks for Mitchell. We waited a year for Giannis and he went right back to Bucks.
The only trade that we didn't pursue for a top 10 player was Harden and he wanted Philly.
So which trade could they've done to get that 2nd top 15 player to make us real contenders. Mind you we only have two tradeable first round picks and Herro as real assets. You can also add Bam to that

We send a 2nd to OKC and we unlock a 3rd first. This team didn’t need a star, they could’ve got by with 2 high level role players and we have the picks for that. If you want star power we could’ve got Kyrie for Lowry and a 1st. ICC said we had a deal ready for John Collins too. We missed out waiting on KD.

We know Kyrie ain't gonna work out of here. The Heat run a tight ship, Kyrie would have hated being here. A 100 % guaranteed. Collins helps but he's not a star that is going to push us over the top. We would be basically where we were last season. A really good team which needs everything to fall right to get to finals.
The only moves that would us made true contenders was KD or Mitchell.
What the FO messed up was not replacing PJ which made us a lot worse than we were last season.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The issue is talent they don't have enough elite talent. If we are being honest this is the best they can do with these assets. We tried for KD, they didn't want our picks. We didn't have the picks for Mitchell. We waited a year for Giannis and he went right back to Bucks.
The only trade that we didn't pursue for a top 10 player was Harden and he wanted Philly.
So which trade could they've done to get that 2nd top 15 player to make us real contenders. Mind you we only have two tradeable first round picks and Herro as real assets. You can also add Bam to that

We send a 2nd to OKC and we unlock a 3rd first. This team didn’t need a star, they could’ve got by with 2 high level role players and we have the picks for that. If you want star power we could’ve got Kyrie for Lowry and a 1st. ICC said we had a deal ready for John Collins too. We missed out waiting on KD.

We know Kyrie ain't gonna work out of here. The Heat run a tight ship, Kyrie would have hated being here. A 100 % guaranteed. Collins helps but he's not a star that is going to push us over the top. We would be basically where we were last season. A really good team which needs everything to fall right to get to finals.
The only moves that would us made true contenders was KD or Mitchell.
What the FO messed up was not replacing PJ which made us a lot worse than we were last season.

Nah if anyone could’ve managed Kyrie it’s us. Then we should’ve went all in for Mitchell. We could’ve got another pick or 2 to beat the Jazz offer and had Herro to move as well

[oreon]

We send a 2nd to OKC and we unlock a 3rd first. This team didn’t need a star, they could’ve got by with 2 high level role players and we have the picks for that. If you want star power we could’ve got Kyrie for Lowry and a 1st. ICC said we had a deal ready for John Collins too. We missed out waiting on KD.

We know Kyrie ain't gonna work out of here. The Heat run a tight ship, Kyrie would have hated being here. A 100 % guaranteed. Collins helps but he's not a star that is going to push us over the top. We would be basically where we were last season. A really good team which needs everything to fall right to get to finals.
The only moves that would us made true contenders was KD or Mitchell.
What the FO messed up was not replacing PJ which made us a lot worse than we were last season.

Nah if anyone could’ve managed Kyrie it’s us. [b]Then we should’ve went all in for Mitchell. We could’ve got another pick or 2 to beat the Jazz offer and had Herro to move as well[/b]

If we could have we would. No one wanted Herro. And its not a done deal OKC would agree to lift protections for a 2nd, they would need more. Its better from their end to get the pick as further out as possible because Miami is going to be a playoff team in the next couple years and the further out is, the better the odds it hits in the year high school players become NBA eligible. A 2nd to them when they have a billion picks is nothing. They would want more unless they owe us a favour.
The reality is just Heat don't have enough picks to make the monster trade. And that all can be traced back to those dumb S&T we did for Bron and Bosh. We just never caught up after that

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We know Kyrie ain't gonna work out of here. The Heat run a tight ship, Kyrie would have hated being here. A 100 % guaranteed. Collins helps but he's not a star that is going to push us over the top. We would be basically where we were last season. A really good team which needs everything to fall right to get to finals.
The only moves that would us made true contenders was KD or Mitchell.
What the FO messed up was not replacing PJ which made us a lot worse than we were last season.

Nah if anyone could’ve managed Kyrie it’s us. [b]Then we should’ve went all in for Mitchell. We could’ve got another pick or 2 to beat the Jazz offer and had Herro to move as well[/b]

If we could have we would. No one wanted Herro. And its not a done deal OKC would agree to lift protections for a 2nd, they would need more. Its better from their end to get the pick as further out as possible because Miami is going to be a playoff team in the next couple years and the further out is, the better the odds it hits in the year high school players become NBA eligible. A 2nd to them when they have a billion picks is nothing. They would want more unless they owe us a favour.
The reality is just Heat don't have enough picks to make the monster trade. And that all can be traced back to those dumb S&T we did for Bron and Bosh. We just never caught up after that

Nah we 100% do we just don’t want to pull the trigger. Now it’s biting us in the ass.

Give me the roster and the assets and you better believe we don’t have a hole at PG and PF lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Deal with OKC to unlock another 1st was already done if needed by the way

[MHeat0279]

Yo this is ridiculous. Just say you hate Spo. Cuz some of Ya'll assessments don't match with reality. We were no 1 seed and a shot away from finals last season. And from some of these posts you'd think we were the Sacramento Kings. Its just funny to see

Sure Spo had a bad coaching game last night, it happens to every coach. That doesn't make him a bum. If you are gonna judge a coach do it by his record in the past couple relative to the talent in the roster. And he has over performed

Now this season looking like a dumpster fire. Not because of coaching but roster construction. They lost a PF they didn't replace and going to the season with only 2 playable wings both who are undersized to play the 4. This is the main issue and Riles is the main culprit. Spo is also to blame as he also takes part in roster decision.

How can i hate somebody i dont really care about ? Of course besides the human side of caring about a human being, i dont really care about Spo. I never said he is a bum, but he is mediocre as a coach, you have the good ones, Pop, Riley back in the day, etc etc. I know players will make a coach look very good or very bad, but the coaching job last night was extremely bad, and it was not only last night, he is being like that since he took over the job. No he has not over performed. We won those rings back in the big 3 days in spite of our coach, we should have one more ring if not for Lebron chickening out vs Dallas and SPO not doing his job to get him out of his mental block. Your logic about being one shot away from the finals is a very flawed one, multiple factors took our team to that point, factors which will probably wont happen again.

That was Lebron. Not Spo. He had a mental breakdown because everyone was hating on him and rooting for him to fail. Spo ain't a shrink, he wasn't gonna fix mid series and neither was Riley. This was something Lebron had to figure out himself. Should we penalize Spo for not having a PHD in pyshcology lol

Disagree, its a coach's job to inspire confidence in their players, example Riley packing a single suit for game 6 in dallas ( a brilliant motivational move )
If you still think he is a very good coach after all his questionable rotations, late ingame adjustments, out of synch time outs, etc etc then more power to you.

[HeatFanDan]

Bam in Toronto would be all nba, he’s neutered here

You seem to really press on Mr. Adebayo is he your favorite player?

3rd favorite, I just know an elite talent when I see it and we’re not maximizing it. He’s being wasted being used getting everyone else open looks and has been for years now. Leads the league in screen assists. He needs to be a scoring focal point.

An "elite talent" wouldn't piss his pants at the sight of Robert Williams.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

You seem to really press on Mr. Adebayo is he your favorite player?

3rd favorite, I just know an elite talent when I see it and we’re not maximizing it. He’s being wasted being used getting everyone else open looks and has been for years now. Leads the league in screen assists. He needs to be a scoring focal point.

An "elite talent" wouldn't piss his pants at the sight of Robert Williams.

You’re talking about a front court pairing in Williams and Horford who give even the most dominant players in the league he’ll.

He cooked then game 7 with 25-11-4 while everyone else outside of Jimmy **** their pants.

One day you guys are going to realize PPG is not the barometer to rank a player, I’ll be here when you learn the game

[HeatFanDan]

3rd favorite, I just know an elite talent when I see it and we’re not maximizing it. He’s being wasted being used getting everyone else open looks and has been for years now. Leads the league in screen assists. He needs to be a scoring focal point.

An "elite talent" wouldn't piss his pants at the sight of Robert Williams.

You’re talking about a front court pairing in Williams and Horford who give even the most dominant players in the league he’ll.

He cooked then game 7 with 25-11-4 while everyone else outside of Jimmy **** their pants.

One day you guys are going to realize PPG is not the barometer to rank a player, I’ll be here when you learn the game

I know the game well enough to know that Bam has failed to develop ONE go-to post move in all the time he's been here. That tells me either he's lazy, or he just isn't that talented.

Look, I like Bam. I think he's a great piece. But let's be real, he's no elite talent.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

An "elite talent" wouldn't piss his pants at the sight of Robert Williams.

You’re talking about a front court pairing in Williams and Horford who give even the most dominant players in the league he’ll.

He cooked then game 7 with 25-11-4 while everyone else outside of Jimmy **** their pants.

One day you guys are going to realize PPG is not the barometer to rank a player, I’ll be here when you learn the game

I know the game well enough to know that Bam has failed to develop ONE go-to post move in all the time he's been here. That tells me either he's lazy, or he just isn't that talented.

Look, I like Bam. I think he's a great piece. But let's be real, he's no elite talent.

He’s a generational defensive player, the best in the world and is coming off a season giving you an efficient 19. Dude is even one of our top playmakers and frees things up for our screen merchants on the perimeter all at the age of 25, that’s an elite talent

[ShulaDon92]

A ton of critiques in this game thread, wow. I'd like to trust Spo. He's done fine. Sure, he has flaws, weaknesses. But like a good wife, why look for milk when you have a great cow at home? Spo usually gets it right.

This is a winning franchise.
Spos a good man.

[BadMofoPimp]

Can't judge a team based off a few games to start the season. This is a long hall.

And, Bam gonna provem all wrong!!!