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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#261 » by Shewasfly » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:14 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Just done with Herro being the scape goat when things aren’t going right. This team has some major problems in the front court sans Bam. If Bam had to miss a game this team is toast with no depth. The future of this franchise is Bam and Tyler. Now we need to get the right pieces around them.


Bam is apart of the problem in the front court. We all want to go away from small ball but somehow a big man who’s an average rebounder who can’t hold his own in the post without help that puts the defense off balance is above it all? Doesn’t add up.

Point is EVERYONE on this team has some blame as it concerns the results we get. And so does Spo and more than everyone? The FO.

I don’t know where this idea that we have to deify Bam in order to acknowledge him as an important player came from during the offseason yall had on here.

Bam would be able to flourish a lot more if he didn’t have to cover for two front court spots on a nightly basis. I blame the front office for such a poor job of getting him a quality big that he can play off of. Tucker and Crowder did there thing with Bam and with one we made the finals and the other we were knocking on the door. If we can just slightly upgrade from the Tucker’s and Crowder’s maybe we can finally get over the hump but we keep taking steps back going small again.


I completely agree with you. I put this More so on the FO than any one player or even the coach. Not only did they not pair anyone with Bam, but we also don’t even have any depth in the front court.

On the Crowder note I’d take him if he cost little to nothing. I don’t know, the fact that he can’t get consistent minutes with Phoenix anymore has me believing he might be done. He also wouldn’t solve our size issues either.

Not an upgrade per day, and People kept making fun of me when I said it, but I actually still think that Olynyk has been the most ideal pairing that we ever gave Bam thus far. I never liked having to lose him.
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#262 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:43 am

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Bam is apart of the problem in the front court. We all want to go away from small ball but somehow a big man who’s an average rebounder who can’t hold his own in the post without help that puts the defense off balance is above it all? Doesn’t add up.

Point is EVERYONE on this team has some blame as it concerns the results we get. And so does Spo and more than everyone? The FO.

I don’t know where this idea that we have to deify Bam in order to acknowledge him as an important player came from during the offseason yall had on here.

Bam would be able to flourish a lot more if he didn’t have to cover for two front court spots on a nightly basis. I blame the front office for such a poor job of getting him a quality big that he can play off of. Tucker and Crowder did there thing with Bam and with one we made the finals and the other we were knocking on the door. If we can just slightly upgrade from the Tucker’s and Crowder’s maybe we can finally get over the hump but we keep taking steps back going small again.


I completely agree with you. I put this More so on the FO than any one player or even the coach. Not only did they not pair anyone with Bam, but we also don’t even have any depth in the front court.

On the Crowder note I’d take him if he cost little to nothing. I don’t know, the fact that he can’t get consistent minutes with Phoenix anymore has me believing he might be done. He also wouldn’t solve our size issues either.

Not an upgrade per day, and People kept making fun of me when I said it, but I actually still think that Olynyk has been the most ideal pairing that we ever gave Bam thus far. I never liked having to lose him.


Crowder hasn’t been with the suns since before training camp until he’s traded
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#263 » by al bondiga » Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:00 am

I agree that making bam to be a God is a mistake... but everyone in the nba knows what he can be if he ever gets over the hump.

specially us heat fans have to agree that he is taking too long and that spo, pat or even we might be the problem so bam I'm calling you out because it's your

so bam, take hero in and both of you bring us a championship
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#264 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:00 am

Apparently we offered Duncan and protected pick to the Suns for Crowder and they turned it down. I’m sure we are shopping that package around the league for any upgrade.
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Post#265 » by IceColdCubano » Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:07 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Apparently we offered Duncan and protected pick to the Suns for Crowder and they turned it down. I’m sure we are shopping that package around the league for any upgrade.

And its getting denied just as often and as fast as its proposed. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#266 » by 3ballbomber » Thu Nov 3, 2022 4:34 am

heatwillbeback wrote:I always like looking at plus minus after the game.

Tyler was +15. Easily the best on the team (next was +8 with Gabe somehow). Duncan was the worst at -8.


haven't read through this thread....i assume all the Herro talk from yesterday is dead - nothing like a buzzer beating game winner to shut people up......for the time being.
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#267 » by Revived » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:13 am

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He’s not wrong but chances they call travel on the game ending shot attempt is slim to none.
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Post#268 » by twix2500 » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:17 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Apparently we offered Duncan and protected pick to the Suns for Crowder and they turned it down. I’m sure we are shopping that package around the league for any upgrade.
No the Heat never offered a pick. And will not offer a pick.

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Post#269 » by ShulaDon92 » Thu Nov 3, 2022 8:52 am

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heatwillbeback wrote:I always like looking at plus minus after the game.

Tyler was +15. Easily the best on the team (next was +8 with Gabe somehow). Duncan was the worst at -8.


haven't read through this thread....i assume all the Herro talk from yesterday is dead - nothing like a buzzer beating game winner to shut people up......for the time being.



You think they will shut up? They won't. :lol:
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#270 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 3, 2022 11:20 am

twix2500 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Apparently we offered Duncan and protected pick to the Suns for Crowder and they turned it down. I’m sure we are shopping that package around the league for any upgrade.
No the Heat never offered a pick. And will not offer a pick.

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https://clutchpoints.com/the-jae-crowder-heat-trade-offer-involving-duncan-robinson-the-suns-shot-down/amp/

As we get closer to the deadline and the need to shed salary they will have to give up a pick.
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Post#271 » by KingDavid » Thu Nov 3, 2022 1:40 pm

Boy that escalated quickly. That was a great ending.
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#272 » by oreon » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:55 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Apparently we offered Duncan and protected pick to the Suns for Crowder and they turned it down. I’m sure we are shopping that package around the league for any upgrade.


Crowder on an expiring, he isn't worth more than a protected pick. My guess they don't want that Duncan contract.
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#274 » by 3ballbomber » Thu Nov 3, 2022 11:14 pm

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lol @Spo's lack of reaction. Prob doesn't know how to feel about it. Wonder how many times Herro freestyled the offense this game :lol:
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#275 » by Shewasfly » Thu Nov 3, 2022 11:14 pm

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So what do we think? Was it a Travel? Looks like he did a jump stop and gather and chose his right foot as his pivot, which he never left after the jump stop
until the shot. So not a travel but I admit after going back and looking at it based on Mouse brown’s whining, it was questionable
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#276 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Nov 3, 2022 11:18 pm

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So what do we think? Was it a Travel? Looks like he did a jump stop and gather and chose his right foot as his pivot, which he never left after the jump stop
until the shot. So not a travel but I admit after going back and looking at it based on Mouse brown’s whining, it was questionable


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Travel but we’ll take it.
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Post#277 » by Shewasfly » Thu Nov 3, 2022 11:23 pm

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lol @Spo's lack of reaction. Prob doesn't know how to feel about it. Wonder how many times Herro freestyled the offense this game :lol:

I’m sure he does it all time, and I know Jimmy does too. That’s why I don’t buy the excuses about Bam being “prevented” from scoring by the offense. If you see a mismatch or a shot that you like, you make your move and take it. As much as Bam gets the ball on offense, if he’s not aggressive it’s a choice he’s making. Period. Not a result of much else.
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#278 » by Shewasfly » Thu Nov 3, 2022 11:26 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:
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So what do we think? Was it a Travel? Looks like he did a jump stop and gather and chose his right foot as his pivot, which he never left after the jump stop
until the shot. So not a travel but I admit after going back and looking at it based on Mouse brown’s whining, it was questionable


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Travel but we’ll take it.

The establishment of the left foot as the pivot foot is what I’m not seeing. But I’m not able to slow it down. Either way, a win is a win. we’ve been screwed a lot worse on even more egregious plays. Oh well.
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Re: Heat vs Kings - road to .500 

Post#279 » by Wiltside » Fri Nov 4, 2022 7:10 am

Quiz or Bish need to get next GT going ASAP
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