HEAT V. PACERS

[al bondiga]

Riley, Zo, and the front office should be ashamed of the front court roster they put together.

the heat has an okay front Court it just doesn't use it

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Pacer fan here. Not coming in for trouble, just bball talk.

Hero is a stud, legit scares me to every time he has the ball.

Butler out, best player would have been best player in the game.

Duarte 90 degreed ankle 4 minutes in.

We ain't giving Buddy and Turner away. I'll probably take firsts for each.

Strus was a find.

You probably beat us the rest of the matchups.

How about Mathurin? it's early, but easily 2nd best rookie so far.

Would be more then happy to give you a first for each but you gotta take on Duncan and Lowry to make it happen. We probably want Turner to sign extension too if giving up that type of capital. Have also mentioned a smaller deal of Duncan and protected first for Theis and McConnell. Mathurin was a great pick

The smaller deal sounds ok. Top 10 protected not whole lottery. We'll probably not use Theis. Not that he's not useful, we're using our young guys ahead of him. I don't think he's really injured. Out for sore something. JMO.

Not sure about the Turner Buddy trade. Duncan has fell off the biggest cliff I've ever seen. Lowry if expiring maybe, if we could flip him. But he looks kinda washed. We wouldn't want him to play for us, with Hali and rookie Numhard being our solid backup. We need SF.

I’d say Lowry and Duncan is solid, possibly flip Lowry to a 3rd team like Dallas or NO who have had interest and you could get another 1st. I don’t think Miami will do it though, they probably think we need Lowry for whatever reason

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Riley, Zo, and the front office should be ashamed of the front court roster they put together.

the heat has an okay front Court it just doesn't use it

Nah, no one currently on the team is the answer.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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This was my biggest complaint on the last play, it should’ve been a 2 man action with Bam. Herro more than likely gets an open look for 3, a clear lane to attack, or an open Bam. It’s literally one of the most efficient sets in the league right now.

Herro is getting .6 PPP in isolation situations this season, that is horrible and has to improve if he’s supposed to be an elite go to scorer on a max contract.

That being said, If anyone is blaming this loss on anything other than bad coaching or Duncan/Lowry making $45M (KD money) and going 1-16 from the field in a game we lost by 3 then they have an agenda

[eddieheatfan]

looks like this team is on a stealth




just last year this same group sans tucker and morris were wining games with guys like kyle guy

so the disposition its not even there and you can tell by their body language

[marson]

looks like this team is on a stealth




just last year this same group sans tucker and morris were wining games with guys like kyle guy

so the disposition its not even there and you can tell by their body language

Yeah, feels like this group already hit its ceiling last year and needs a roster shakeup.

[HeatFanLifer]

After the first ten games, I think this team is lucky to have 4 wins. No heart, no cohesion, and just going through the motions every game. I think if the Heat are still under .500 at the 20 game mark and are showing no momentum, Heat management will make some big moves. This team as is will barely qualify for the lower seed play-in tournament.

[twix2500]

Haven't watched the 2nd half of last 2 games but will get to it. I said I will give my first evaluation of the team at 10 games. However, too many players been missing from the projected rotation to get any true critique. But let's look at some numbers to see how the team is doing in this 10 game stretch. Comparing to last year for some perspective.

Miami Heat 2022-23
Offense - Ranked 21ts - Off Rating 109.3 - 85.3 FGA per game - TO 14.1
Defense - Ranked 15th - Def Rating 111.1 -

Starting Unit 2022-23
Lowry - Herro - Butler - Martin - Bam
Off Rating 111.1 - Def Rating 104.9

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Miami Heat 2021-22
Offense - Ranked 12th - Off Rating 113.0 - 84.8 FGA per game - TO 14.6
Defense - Ranked 4th - Def Rating 108.4

Starting Unit 2021-22
Lowry - Butler - Robinson - Tucker - Bam
Off Rating 111.2 - Def Rating - 98.7

Lowry - Butler - Strus - Tucker - Bam
Off Rating 131.2 - Def Rating - 121.7



*Meant to put this in the regular season thread



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[eddieheatfan]

Haven't watched the 2nd half of last 2 games but will get to it. I said I will give my first evaluation of the team at 10 games. However, too many players been missing from the projected rotation to get any true critique. But let's look at some numbers to see how the team is doing in this 10 game stretch. Comparing to last year for some perspective.

Miami Heat 2022-23
Offense - Ranked 21ts - Off Rating 109.3 - 85.3 FGA per game - TO 14.1
Defense - Ranked 15th - Def Rating 111.1 -

Starting Unit 2022-23
Lowry - Herro - Butler - Martin - Bam
Off Rating 111.1 - Def Rating 104.9

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Miami Heat 2021-22
Offense - Ranked 12th - Off Rating 113.0 - 84.8 FGA per game - TO 14.6
Defense - Ranked 4th - Def Rating 108.4

Starting Unit 2021-22
Lowry - Butler - Robinson - Tucker - Bam
Off Rating 111.2 - Def Rating - 98.7

Lowry - Butler - Strus - Tucker - Bam
Off Rating 131.2 - Def Rating - 121.7



*Meant to put this in the regular season thread



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there you go, miss that guy. he did play with heart and passion most of the season. the ECF were another story as we all know. the thing is if the heat is taking arent all theur picks already taken because of previous deals?? also wasnt mickey penalized for tampering early on. for the life of mine i swear he was unless i am mistaking him with the dolphins owner

[Miami_Lux]

After the first ten games, I think this team is lucky to have 4 wins. No heart, no cohesion, and just going through the motions every game. I think if the Heat are still under .500 at the 20 game mark and are showing no momentum, Heat management will make some big moves. This team as is will barely qualify for the lower seed play-in tournament.

I disagree with your no heart statement. I actually think the team is trying hard but without Jimmy it just becomes very apparent that this is a team full of role players (with the exception for Bam who is elite defensively). Of course everybody already knew this coming into this season which makes it so mich more frustrating that the FO didn’t make any roster changes

[Bishop45]

All this team needs is no Duncan and a shooting / rebounding definitive 4. Get it done

That Randle deal might still be there [eyes emoji]

But seriously, a 2pt loss like this without our best player isn’t that bad, especially to this Pacers team. Losing while encouraging small ball is what got folks heated, but I guess I get it. I just think this team needs more talent

Randle is PF Waiters, the season is abandoned at that point

By that, you mean a skilled PF that can rebound and might be available at an affordable price: sign me up (though I think talent more than sz is our issue)

[HeatFanLifer]

After the first ten games, I think this team is lucky to have 4 wins. No heart, no cohesion, and just going through the motions every game. I think if the Heat are still under .500 at the 20 game mark and are showing no momentum, Heat management will make some big moves. This team as is will barely qualify for the lower seed play-in tournament.

I disagree with your no heart statement. I actually think the team is trying hard but without Jimmy it just becomes very apparent that this is a team full of role players (with the exception for Bam who is elite defensively). Of course everybody already knew this coming into this season which makes it so mich more frustrating that the FO didn’t make any roster changes

Heat rank second to last in the league in contested shots.

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/hustle?dir=D&sort=CONTESTED_SHOTS

Plus 23rd in offensive/defensive rebounds.

That’s partially due to lack of heart but also on Spo. Small ball is demoralizing. Players get their butt kicked every game. That gets to a player after a couple of years. Look at what happened to Shane Battier/Justice Winslow.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Contested shots number is funny considering Bam is 10th in the league there lol, everyone else just giving up open looks I guess