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Post#241 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Dec 6, 2022 4:03 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:And to make matters worse, Spo saw how horrible the bench was and didn’t even try to see if Duncan could give some sort of a spark. Hell Haslem should’ve played any Dedmon 2nd half minutes if we’re being real

He has a first round 6’11” skilled rookie seating at his bench. A rookie that can assist Bam with passing skills that due to his length can disrupt some of those over the top shots on defense, while freeing Bam of some of those exclusive attentions he was getting. Creating a mismatch of his own maybe?


Spo sleeping or is Jovic defense too crap?
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Post#242 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Dec 6, 2022 4:04 am

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fishfuego. wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:And to make matters worse, Spo saw how horrible the bench was and didn’t even try to see if Duncan could give some sort of a spark. Hell Haslem should’ve played any Dedmon 2nd half minutes if we’re being real

He has a first round 6’11” skilled rookie seating at his bench. A rookie that can assist Bam with passing skills that due to his length can disrupt some of those over the top shots on defense, while freeing Bam of some of those exclusive attentions he was getting. Creating a mismatch of his own maybe?


Spo sleeping or is Jovic defense too crap?


I guarantee Jovic wouldn’t be -17 in 9 minutes today. That’s actual wild from Dedmon. Spos sleeping but Jovic defense sucks too, he’s dynamic offensively though Dedmon is just flat out nothing on either side
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Post#243 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Dec 6, 2022 4:07 am

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ShulaDon92 wrote:
fishfuego. wrote:He has a first round 6’11” skilled rookie seating at his bench. A rookie that can assist Bam with passing skills that due to his length can disrupt some of those over the top shots on defense, while freeing Bam of some of those exclusive attentions he was getting. Creating a mismatch of his own maybe?


Spo sleeping or is Jovic defense too crap?


I guarantee Jovic wouldn’t be -17 in 9 minutes today. That’s actual wild from Dedmon. Spos sleeping but Jovic defense sucks too, he’s dynamic offensively though Dedmon is just flat out nothing on either side


I remember not too long ago Jovic on fire and outplaying Dedmon and Highsmith by a country mile before he was put on ice.
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Post#244 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Dec 6, 2022 4:10 am

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Spo sleeping or is Jovic defense too crap?


I guarantee Jovic wouldn’t be -17 in 9 minutes today. That’s actual wild from Dedmon. Spos sleeping but Jovic defense sucks too, he’s dynamic offensively though Dedmon is just flat out nothing on either side


I remember not too long ago Jovic on fire and outplaying Dedmon and Highsmith by a country mile before he was put on ice.


I can’t even hate in Highsmith anymore to be honest. His defense is elite just have to hope the offense eventually follows. Dedmon Gabe and Strus play is inexcusable
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Re: Miami Heat (11-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (13-9) 8:00 ET 

Post#245 » by eddieheatfan » Tue Dec 6, 2022 5:11 am

AirP. wrote:Miami at nearly full strength just scored 93 points against mostly backups, that's embarrassing. They don't have the talent to take a night off and still win, they have to execute correctly, and they didn't and are now 2 games under .500 instead of being at .500.

Miami is missing someone to challenge Butler to play with more passion which both Tucker and Crowder did, nobody on this roster is going to do that.
i thought this was haslem job :banghead:
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Post#246 » by Dmcdani6 » Tue Dec 6, 2022 5:14 am

Highnuts is G. Williams w/ out the shooting. Why would we need to trade for him? That makes no sense to me.

Just a bad game, its not a big deal.

What to do w/ Lowry and Herro. I’m not sure they work together.
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Post#247 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Dec 6, 2022 5:18 am

Dmcdani6 wrote:Highnuts is G. Williams w/ out the shooting. Why would we need to trade for him? That makes no sense to me.

Just a bad game, its not a big deal.

What to do w/ Lowry and Herro. I’m not sure they work together.


If you're looking to win now you trade em both for Kyrie, if you want to look to the future you keep Herro. Might get Kyrie at a bargain now for Lowry, not sure.
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Post#248 » by eddieheatfan » Tue Dec 6, 2022 5:21 am

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Dmcdani6 wrote:Highnuts is G. Williams w/ out the shooting. Why would we need to trade for him? That makes no sense to me.

Just a bad game, its not a big deal.

What to do w/ Lowry and Herro. I’m not sure they work together.


If you're looking to win now you trade em both for Kyrie, if you want to look to the future you keep Herro. Might get Kyrie at a bargain now for Lowry, not sure.




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Post#250 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Dec 6, 2022 5:53 am

From a pure bball perspective do you do a Lowry for Irving deal? Sure.

I understand he is in hot water.

LeBron might do Westbrook for Kyrie.
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Post#251 » by MorbidHEAT » Tue Dec 6, 2022 7:00 am

ShulaDon92 wrote:From a pure bball perspective do you do a Lowry for Irving deal? Sure.

I understand he is in hot water.

LeBron might do Westbrook for Kyrie.


In a heartbeat. Defense would be a problem, but we would get out of Lowry's contract next year. From what I'm reading, Vic is healthy and will be debuting this week. Him remaining healthy would be a plus from a defensive perspective. If you are talking about strictly basketball, you can't pass up a chance to get Kyrie and get out of a bad contract.
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Post#252 » by MorbidHEAT » Tue Dec 6, 2022 7:03 am

It's concerning that almost 25 games in we are still 2 games under .500. I have no doubt that we will be a tough out in a playoff series, but at this rate we might not even make it. I don't understand how we beat Boston one game, and then lose the next game to the Grizzlies without Ja Morant. We've missed 2 opportunities to use a good win as a catapult to make a run and get back into the east. It's still early, but I suspect when we are 50 games in, we will still be saying the same thing.
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Post#253 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Dec 6, 2022 8:17 am

MorbidHEAT wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:From a pure bball perspective do you do a Lowry for Irving deal? Sure.

I understand he is in hot water.

LeBron might do Westbrook for Kyrie.


In a heartbeat. Defense would be a problem, but we would get out of Lowry's contract next year. From what I'm reading, Vic is healthy and will be debuting this week. Him remaining healthy would be a plus from a defensive perspective. If you are talking about strictly basketball, you can't pass up a chance to get Kyrie and get out of a bad contract.


Yeah, and if you can move more weight for Turners expiring, do that too. Defense issues solved. Hield for Dipo? Why not?!
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Re: Miami Heat (11-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (13-9) 8:00 ET 

Post#254 » by AirP. » Tue Dec 6, 2022 1:33 pm

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AirP. wrote:Miami at nearly full strength just scored 93 points against mostly backups, that's embarrassing. They don't have the talent to take a night off and still win, they have to execute correctly, and they didn't and are now 2 games under .500 instead of being at .500.

Miami is missing someone to challenge Butler to play with more passion which both Tucker and Crowder did, nobody on this roster is going to do that.
i thought this was haslem job :banghead:

No, it needs to be someone who actually is a rotation player out on the court with him, at this point UD is a glorified assistant coach. Basically, someone saying I'm working my ass off, why aren't you?
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Post#255 » by Flash4thewin » Tue Dec 6, 2022 2:58 pm

MorbidHEAT wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:From a pure bball perspective do you do a Lowry for Irving deal? Sure.

I understand he is in hot water.

LeBron might do Westbrook for Kyrie.


In a heartbeat. Defense would be a problem, but we would get out of Lowry's contract next year. From what I'm reading, Vic is healthy and will be debuting this week. Him remaining healthy would be a plus from a defensive perspective. If you are talking about strictly basketball, you can't pass up a chance to get Kyrie and get out of a bad contract.


Problem is the Nets say no and then you hear the dial tone. They can get more value for Kyrie by having him play than to trade him for our inferior players on worse contracts. The Nets with all of there dysfunctions are what 3 games better than us? We had people here call the Nets a dumpster fire, saying that a team needs to save KD from that losing team, what does that tell us about our own team which is worse? It also might explains just why Butler has been so passive this season minus the Boston game.
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Post#256 » by IceColdCubano » Tue Dec 6, 2022 6:03 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
MorbidHEAT wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:From a pure bball perspective do you do a Lowry for Irving deal? Sure.

I understand he is in hot water.

LeBron might do Westbrook for Kyrie.


In a heartbeat. Defense would be a problem, but we would get out of Lowry's contract next year. From what I'm reading, Vic is healthy and will be debuting this week. Him remaining healthy would be a plus from a defensive perspective. If you are talking about strictly basketball, you can't pass up a chance to get Kyrie and get out of a bad contract.


Problem is the Nets say no and then you hear the dial tone. They can get more value for Kyrie by having him play than to trade him for our inferior players on worse contracts. The Nets with all of there dysfunctions are what 3 games better than us? We had people here call the Nets a dumpster fire, saying that a team needs to save KD from that losing team, what does that tell us about our own team which is worse? It also might explains just why Butler has been so passive this season minus the Boston game.

Its an interesting topic to be honest, jimmy is somewhat disinterested in some games almost expecting that the team should be in a better position offensively. He almost justifies it as, well Bam is rolling, and Herro can score, we got some decent talent that is home grown why should I need to carry the burden all year. Regardless of what he gets paid, he justify the salary for the years and work already put into the game of basketball as a whole. Unfortunately some players look at their salaries that way, not that they need to perform for what they got paid for but as a result of the work already completed as in a back pay. He does have the I don't need to show anyone what I can accomplish, just get me to the playoffs, and if you cannot then this team isn't worthy of my hard work.

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