Miami Heat 22-23 Regular Season Thread 3.0

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Shooting sucks in large part because the ball movement and spacing sucks.

Even if Mia brought in a great 3 point shooter, I suspect that unless the system adjusts, he wouldnt make a major difference to improve the offense.

Relying on the shooter to handle and create their own shot as much as they have to in this system has brought about diminishing results.

Also, DHO play is tired and doesnt nearly work as well as it did a few years ago.

Max and Duncan having to dribble around screens and shoot 3's off of movement is asinine, imo.

They should be mostly spotting up and waiting to receiving an open look created by a skilled handler.

If Mia continues with this philosophy, the agenda should then be to improve the PG position with a guy who can run the offense and also create their own looks from 3 and knock them down at a reasonable rate instead of their role players specialists being asked to do more than they otherwise should be doing.

I’d disagree, we’re actually top 5 in the league in shot quality. We generate a ton of open looks. Guys simply just haven’t but up to the task

If Mia's shooters ie, Max and Duncan are shooting "open looks" but they are having to dribble into those shots, I dont regard them as "quality shots"

I regard "quality shots" particularly when they are being taken by role players/specialists, to be spot-up, wide-open looks.

I'm not seeing nearly enough of those kind of "quality shots" on a regular basis.

Of the 7.7 3s Strus takes a game, 6.5 of them come with 0 dribbles, he’s shooting 34% on those.

Of the 5 Duncan attempts a game 3.7 come with 0 dribbles he’s shooting 33%. 1.2 come with 1 dribble where he’s at 34%

These guys are missing wide open catch and shoot 3s

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I’d disagree, we’re actually top 5 in the league in shot quality. We generate a ton of open looks. Guys simply just haven’t but up to the task

If Mia's shooters ie, Max and Duncan are shooting "open looks" but they are having to dribble into those shots, I dont regard them as "quality shots"

I regard "quality shots" particularly when they are being taken by role players/specialists, to be spot-up, wide-open looks.

I'm not seeing nearly enough of those kind of "quality shots" on a regular basis.

Where can you find shot quality statistics?

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[MettaWorldPanda]

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These people who come up with these trades are idiots. Miami’s 2025 pick is owed to OKC and can only lift protections on it. The trade also puts Miami 8 million over the tax line. The same Miami front office that so far up till this date refuses to sign a player because we are 200k away from not getting a quick 10 million dollar revenue sharing check. These NBA insiders are all a bunch of phucking hacks.

[Beenie]

I’d disagree, we’re actually top 5 in the league in shot quality. We generate a ton of open looks. Guys simply just haven’t but up to the task

If Mia's shooters ie, Max and Duncan are shooting "open looks" but they are having to dribble into those shots, I dont regard them as "quality shots"

I regard "quality shots" particularly when they are being taken by role players/specialists, to be spot-up, wide-open looks.

I'm not seeing nearly enough of those kind of "quality shots" on a regular basis.

Where can you find shot quality statistics?

Dont know, tbh.

Im contesting the definition of what he means by "quality shots"

Going by my eye test, which could certainly be flawed, I'm not seeing an abundance of wide open spot-up shots by Max and Duncan.

Of course they get some every now and again, but i seems likely a lot of their looks are coming from off the dribble into a shooting space which I'll argue isn't a quality shot for them or for most role players.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

3.7 of Duncan’s attempts are classified as “open/wide open”

5.9 of Strus attempts are classified as “open/wide open”

[MettaWorldPanda]

I’m definitely in the wrong business. I need to start a podcast and get in on this make stuff up industry. At least when i spew something it will be backed by quality research.

[Lennyzinho]

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What a horrible proposal.

I really wish I understood why people think Rozier is so good or valuable. Happens in the Trades/Transaction forum also from Charlotte fans wanting a haul from Miami for him... He's in the first year of a 4/96M deal.
He's a career 41.6% FG and 37% 3pt shooter. So basically I'm just trying to figure out when a volume shooter with poor efficiency making 24M a year and a defensive liability that's also small at 6'1, became so valuable. He also has a very mid assist to turnover ratio. If you put Duncan on a bad team where he didn't have to play defense and could just let it fly and not worry, do we really think he wouldn't have OK numbers?

Hayward makes 30M next year. Lowry is more valuable than him imo considering they're both expirings making same amount. And plumlee would be solid for us but a rental.

And we are supposed to send a FRP and jovic for this? Jeez. Talk about lazy. In todays NBA with the rule changes regarding fouls and clock and increase of pace, scoring 18-21ppg on a terrible team with high volume low efficiency does not impress me in the least.

[AirP.]

I’d disagree, we’re actually top 5 in the league in shot quality. We generate a ton of open looks. Guys simply just haven’t but up to the task

If Mia's shooters ie, Max and Duncan are shooting "open looks" but they are having to dribble into those shots, I dont regard them as "quality shots"

I regard "quality shots" particularly when they are being taken by role players/specialists, to be spot-up, wide-open looks.

I'm not seeing nearly enough of those kind of "quality shots" on a regular basis.

Where can you find shot quality statistics?

I look here.

Yes, Miami gets the 4th (16.2) most open (4-6 feet from defender) 3pt shots but makes them at a 34% rate which is 16th in the NBA.

BUT... when you look at wide open 3s (6+ feet from defender) Miami is dead last at 13.2 3s attempted making them at a rate of 35.3%.

Miami also takes the 3rd (5.8) most tightly defended shots (2-4 feet) and makes them at a 27.9%
Very tight 3s (0-2 feet from defender)? Doesn't really matter because it's such a small number(0.2) with Miami making 37.5% of them.

The breakdown at a team level is here...
https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612748/shots-dash
Which shows Miami isn't good shooting 3s with 7 or less seconds left on the shot clock.
What's really hurting Miami is the catch and shoot 3s, these are supposed to be the prize shots off of getting someone open and Miami is making them at 33.4%.