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2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - To play in, or not to play in

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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - To play in, or not to play in 

Post#361 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:25 am

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People just throw all perspective out the window when it comes to Kyrie.

1. They forget Kyrie and KD were taking over the Easy/League before he asked out. They were dominant.

2. Lukas missed quite a bit of time

3. Kyries missed time

4. It takes time to gel and build chemistry which falls back in line with 2 and 3. People forget the Big 3 we’re complete trash to start 2011 and that was after a summer of working together

5. Mavs we’re slumping bad already before Kyrie got there

6. Jason Kidd is their coach

7. They’re not very talented outside of the top 2-3 guys on the team (sounds familiar)

Yeah the Nets were rolling ... and then Kyrie blew them up. Kyrie sabotaging a potential championship teams is always a danger and one of the reasons to avoid him. And yeah he's missed time, but that's another known issue with him. And this is Kyrie in a contract year. This is Kyrie on his best behavior.

Fans get blinded by his ability to score a bunch of points when he's healthy enough to play ... and bothers to show up for work ... and decides to play well. But Kyrie is an active danger to any team he plays for.

And after the Mavs give him a new contract it's only going to get worse.


Mavs may not resign Kyrie
Might be Miami's best option this summer.


How would we get him with no cap space, and remember we would be dealing with Mark freaking Cuban. The only way Mark Cuban would agree to a trade is if it's something so lop sided in his favor, something so unrealistic in the Mavs favor that he is forced to say sure why not. If Kyrie is trade it will be to the Lakers in some kind of sign and trade.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - To play in, or not to play in 

Post#363 » by Vertical Limit » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:22 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:
contract wrote:Yeah the Nets were rolling ... and then Kyrie blew them up. Kyrie sabotaging a potential championship teams is always a danger and one of the reasons to avoid him. And yeah he's missed time, but that's another known issue with him. And this is Kyrie in a contract year. This is Kyrie on his best behavior.

Fans get blinded by his ability to score a bunch of points when he's healthy enough to play ... and bothers to show up for work ... and decides to play well. But Kyrie is an active danger to any team he plays for.

And after the Mavs give him a new contract it's only going to get worse.


Mavs may not resign Kyrie
Might be Miami's best option this summer.


How would we get him with no cap space, and remember we would be dealing with Mark freaking Cuban. The only way Mark Cuban would agree to a trade is if it's something so lop sided in his favor, something so unrealistic in the Mavs favor that he is forced to say sure why not. If Kyrie is trade it will be to the Lakers in some kind of sign and trade.

Yea i agree with your post.. the Mavericks are not going to move forward with Kyrie, they made a mistake trading for him.. they got rid of their depth and chemistry by taking a chance at a homerun shot..

they will definitely seek a sign and trade. The thing is, lowry/dipo expirings serve no purpose for Cuban in a sign and trade, thats just taking in salary just because. If you attach firsts on the trade, then he may start getting curious about it... but how many are the Heat willing to give up..

And then to see if Cuban values any other of our assets, like Robinson, Martin, herro.. probably not..

For Cuban, a s&t with the Lakers that nets him Deangelo, Beasley and some firsts is probably a much more enticing offer. Hes not going to blow it up, hes got luka.. hes going to try to make his team deeper.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - To play in, or not to play in 

Post#364 » by Timantha » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:01 am

Doubt this organization touches Kyrie especially with his new large contract (4yr/198mill). It makes it difficult to do a s&t. It was much easier to trade for him last offseason or this deadline (and they still didn't want him).

Beal is the Heat's guy imo. We've been connected to him for too long. I think Wizards move him in order to pay Kuzma and Porzingis. Even Ira mentioned Beal again at the deadline.. :lol:

I have been told that if the Heat do not move Kyle Lowry at Thursday’s NBA trading deadline that the Heat very much will return to the mindset of an offseason run at Kevin Durant or Bradley Beal, should either express a desire to move on. For Durant gets to see if this Brooklyn remix can work. But I do agree that it is almost as if the Heat keep kicking the can down the road with visions of Durant or Beal, as the games and seasons tick along with nothing but mediocrity in the interim.


If a Dame or JB is available, we're gonna get outbidded.. Beal seems the most attainable cause of his terrible contract. We're capped out and in the luxury tax from now on anyways. Let Mickey finally pay some money
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Post#365 » by 3ballbomber » Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:35 am

Beenie wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
21-10 while being top 3 in the league in points in the paint (by far leading points in the paint outside of the restricted area) and arguably being the best defender in the world, multiple time all defense and all star at the age of 25 and still developing isn’t elite?

Weren’t you crying non stop about Bam not having any moves and now he’s at the top of the league at scoring in the paint? Does that not make you happy to see the development? Not even excited to see him continue to grow? It’s a shame


Forgot to mention the top 10 in 4th quarter scoring in the league and 2nd most efficient player in the clutch in the league. And our best/most efficient player in isolation by every metric.

Bam still doesn't have many moves. He stops short habitually when he should be taking an additional dribble.

That aside, he has improved his short jumper in the paint.

The question is, can he be consistently impactful in the playoffs.

The distinction of elite should be reserved for playoff performers like Jimmy and Wade.

Bam doesnt qualify.


After heavy criticism last post season there's pressure on Bam this coming PO's. Let's see how mr 'we're human' will handle it.
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Post#366 » by 3ballbomber » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:01 am

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We were top 5 in defense before all-stars. We have the 6th worse defensive ratings since the all-star break

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/team-defensive-rating-since-the-all-star-break

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We are 6-6 post all-star
We were 32-27 prior.
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Post#367 » by 3ballbomber » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:36 am

We have 7 games remaining. 5 games on the rd. Including a final B-2-B in PHI & WASH.

@TOR - W
@NY - L
vs DAL - L
@DET - W
@PHI - L
@WASH - W
vs ORL - W

I predict we go 4-3 or 3-4.

ORL, WASH, DET most likely not gone make PO's & players will be shut down for the season. These are the teams that play spoiler role - we can't lose to these teams. Mavs will be desperate to make the play-in & anticipate a tough battle.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - To play in, or not to play in 

Post#368 » by Voltron914 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:04 pm

3ballbomber wrote:
Read on Twitter


We were top 5 in defense before all-stars. We have the 6th worse defensive ratings since the all-star break

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/team-defensive-rating-since-the-all-star-break

Read on Twitter


We are 6-6 post all-star
We were 32-27 prior.



i know part of the reason why love came here because he was promised a starting spot but he needs to be self aware enough to understand he is a 6th man now. let him and kyle do the 2 man game off the bench. oh and we really need Zeller back too
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - To play in, or not to play in 

Post#369 » by carnageta » Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:42 pm

Raps are streaking right now and are tied with Atlanta for the 8th seed - which means we may run into them in the play-in game.

You do not want to play a team like Toronto in the play-ins...
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - To play in, or not to play in 

Post#370 » by al bondiga » Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:23 pm

:banghead: People don't understand that if love goes to the bench We have to say Hello again to small ball
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Post#371 » by ShulaDon92 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:11 pm

Last game was a major fail. Time is running out on the season.
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Post#372 » by Bishop45 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:29 pm

al bondiga wrote::banghead: People don't understand that if love goes to the bench We have to say Hello again to small ball


Maybe Small Ball was never actually the biggest problem on this team, if a problem at all
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - To play in, or not to play in 

Post#373 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:05 pm

Bishop45 wrote:
al bondiga wrote::banghead: People don't understand that if love goes to the bench We have to say Hello again to small ball


Maybe Small Ball was never actually the biggest problem on this team, if a problem at all


It wasn’t and never has been lol.

That small ball starting lineup of Gabe-Herro-Jimmy-Martin-Bam had a 20+ net rating. This current lineup is in the negatives
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Post#374 » by AirP. » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:09 pm

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Post#375 » by contract » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:10 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If you told me by the end of the season the Heat would be the 3rd best team in Florida I would’ve called you crazy, now here we are.

1. Magic
2. Canes
3. Heat

1. Canes men's team
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4. Canes women's team
5. Magic
6. Heat
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Post#376 » by ShulaDon92 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:10 pm

The two big issues on the team pre-deadline was shooting and height. Height was addressed but not shooting. It's still early in the process so if things get clicking for the playoffs they could make a run but those are slim chances, apparently.
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Post#377 » by Enso » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:42 pm

From wcf to not making the playoffs, things turn for the worst so fast in the nba it’s crazy

Mavs org in shambles
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - To play in, or not to play in 

Post#378 » by al bondiga » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:49 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:
al bondiga wrote::banghead: People don't understand that if love goes to the bench We have to say Hello again to small ball


Maybe Small Ball was never actually the biggest problem on this team, if a problem at all


It wasn’t and never has been lol.

That small ball starting lineup of Gabe-Herro-Jimmy-Martin-Bam had a 20+ net rating. This current lineup is in the negatives
I get you guys, ppg i's not as important as style of play, the game consists of many things, In order to win All the things come into play

For me the most important thing right now in this team is the Quantity of years bam can play, If JB likes my small ball, If Hero likes a small ball, The guards getting wasted in 1 half...etc, etc
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - To play in, or not to play in 

Post#379 » by ShulaDon92 » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:55 pm

Enso wrote:From wcf to not making the playoffs, things turn for the worst so fast in the nba it’s crazy

Mavs org in shambles


Signs of parity.

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