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Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm

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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#101 » by Jfh20 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 2:11 am

Wiltside wrote:Duncan just doesn’t give a phuck out there does he.

He got paid and said screw it, I’m done lol :lol: :lol:
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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#102 » by Jfh20 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 2:23 am

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Shewasfly wrote:Gabe getting the min he does with our starters just goes to show the abysmal PG situation. This is the type of game Gabe should get major min in no others (and he's showing why)


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The same can be said for Strus. If there is anything good that has come out of this season, it's at least very clear that none of Vincent, Strus, or Dipo should get MLE money from the Heat. There will be bidders in the summer, but they are not worth more than minimum salary to Miami. Let them go. Don't Duncan them.

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Well Dipo is going to opt in and steal money for another season, so he'll be here.
I would give Strus a vet min type of deal, but he could go elsewhere for teams willing to pay more.
Gabe can go straight to hell for all I care. Legit hate watching him play basketball now.

lol pat just giving out free money these days… remember mcbob? Olynk, dipo, Duncan… seems like whatever fã is willing to sign we will take um… does pat even care anymore? maybe he’s done too?? Who knows wats going on… but hey on the bright side atleast jimmy didn’t try to beat spo up this season lul
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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#103 » by El Alonzo scowl » Sat Apr 8, 2023 2:29 am

Wiltside wrote:Duncan just doesn’t give a phuck out there does he.

Would be cheaper to hire some goons to clobber his knee and force him to get a medical retirement. Give him the ol' Nancy Kerrigan
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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#104 » by SerialChiller » Sat Apr 8, 2023 3:00 am

Jfh20 wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:
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The same can be said for Strus. If there is anything good that has come out of this season, it's at least very clear that none of Vincent, Strus, or Dipo should get MLE money from the Heat. There will be bidders in the summer, but they are not worth more than minimum salary to Miami. Let them go. Don't Duncan them.

edit: wrong gif

Well Dipo is going to opt in and steal money for another season, so he'll be here.
I would give Strus a vet min type of deal, but he could go elsewhere for teams willing to pay more.
Gabe can go straight to hell for all I care. Legit hate watching him play basketball now.

lol pat just giving out free money these days… remember mcbob? Olynk, dipo, Duncan… seems like whatever fã is willing to sign we will take um… does pat even care anymore? maybe he’s done too?? Who knows wats going on… but hey on the bright side atleast jimmy didn’t try to beat spo up this season lul


He probably just waiting till next season when Haslem's retired lol...
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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#105 » by AirP. » Sat Apr 8, 2023 3:43 am

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He is in constant foul trouble and can't get rhythm. It doesn't matter what he does on offense if he can't stay on the floor.

He's no longer looking to catch and try to jack a 3, he's actively looking for a lane to drive so he's not as prepared to shoot a 3 like he once was which is probably why he's had such a dip in his 3pt shooting. Anytime he isn't looking to shoot a 3 he's actually helping the other team.

What you're missing is that he's slow and cannot even get good separation off screens. Its not that he's actively looking to drive, he can't get decent looks from 3 9/10 bc he's a slow footed bum.

True but he had a couple of seasons he did when he actively looked to almost shoot 3s exclusively. I'd rather that slow footed player just come off screens and jack 3s rather than see him attack the basket. Shooting 3s is the only NBA skill he has.

If you're on the other team, it's a win every single time he attacks the basket, I'd rather him attack the basket than shoot a 3 or have someone else who is more than likely better attacking the hoop.
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Post#106 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 6:14 am

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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#108 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Apr 8, 2023 6:19 am

AirP. wrote:I still don't understand why Robinson has decided to diversify his game, he's went from an elite 3pt shooter to a below average offensive player who's horrible at defense. He should be looking to find an open 3 at all times, sooner or later he'd sooner or later get back into that flow but instead it's don't look for 3s but look for a way to put up a floater for possibly 2 points.


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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#109 » by AirP. » Sat Apr 8, 2023 2:04 pm

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AirP. wrote:I still don't understand why Robinson has decided to diversify his game, he's went from an elite 3pt shooter to a below average offensive player who's horrible at defense. He should be looking to find an open 3 at all times, sooner or later he'd sooner or later get back into that flow but instead it's don't look for 3s but look for a way to put up a floater for possibly 2 points.


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Strus broke Duncan. Just catch and shoot the three breh

Yes, little did Duncan know it was the ability to kinda play defense that got him leapfrogged.
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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#110 » by gom » Sat Apr 8, 2023 6:17 pm

Strus is a minus defender too.
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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#111 » by AirP. » Sat Apr 8, 2023 6:35 pm

gom wrote:Strus is a minus defender too.

I thought saying kinda play defense basically meant that.
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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#112 » by gom » Sat Apr 8, 2023 6:39 pm

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gom wrote:Strus is a minus defender too.

I thought saying kinda play defense basically meant that.


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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#113 » by Shewasfly » Sat Apr 8, 2023 10:53 pm

AirP. wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:
AirP. wrote:He's no longer looking to catch and try to jack a 3, he's actively looking for a lane to drive so he's not as prepared to shoot a 3 like he once was which is probably why he's had such a dip in his 3pt shooting. Anytime he isn't looking to shoot a 3 he's actually helping the other team.

What you're missing is that he's slow and cannot even get good separation off screens. Its not that he's actively looking to drive, he can't get decent looks from 3 9/10 bc he's a slow footed bum.

True but he had a couple of seasons he did when he actively looked to almost shoot 3s exclusively. I'd rather that slow footed player just come off screens and jack 3s rather than see him attack the basket. Shooting 3s is the only NBA skill he has.

If you're on the other team, it's a win every single time he attacks the basket, I'd rather him attack the basket than shoot a 3 or have someone else who is more than likely better attacking the hoop.

I agree with your point. I’m just saying he sucks and that has a lot to do with why he’s shooting less 3s. He can’t get them off.

Maybe we forget the screens and just keep him spotted up. Might be better. Can just hope at the very least defenders don’t leave his body and open up lanes for Jimmy drives.

Or, you know, just keep his unplayable ass benched.
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Post#114 » by SunsRback4Good » Sun Apr 9, 2023 4:25 am

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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#115 » by AirP. » Sun Apr 9, 2023 3:41 pm

Shewasfly wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:What you're missing is that he's slow and cannot even get good separation off screens. Its not that he's actively looking to drive, he can't get decent looks from 3 9/10 bc he's a slow footed bum.

True but he had a couple of seasons he did when he actively looked to almost shoot 3s exclusively. I'd rather that slow footed player just come off screens and jack 3s rather than see him attack the basket. Shooting 3s is the only NBA skill he has.

If you're on the other team, it's a win every single time he attacks the basket, I'd rather him attack the basket than shoot a 3 or have someone else who is more than likely better attacking the hoop.

I agree with your point. I’m just saying he sucks and that has a lot to do with why he’s shooting less 3s. He can’t get them off.

Maybe we forget the screens and just keep him spotted up. Might be better. Can just hope at the very least defenders don’t leave his body and open up lanes for Jimmy drives.

Or, you know, just keep his unplayable ass benched.

If he weren't only on the 2nd of a 5 year 90 million dollar contract I'd agree but the reality of the situation is that he's either a 18-million-dollar unplayable player or you utilize him how you once did and get some value out of that contract to the point where he can be included in a trade.

Here's the situation. In most years Miami will not go into the tax to retain talent to keep building their roster (although the FO has backed the owner into a corner with the tax next summer), so having that ~18 million dollar contract is just a bigger hindrance for Miami to retain talent for the next 2 seasons, then his contract becomes a positive expiring contract. So, to move him before he becomes an expiring contract either his value has to go up by playing and playing well (towards his strengths) or Miami has to trade more assets with him to get rid of him. I think they'll try to use him as filler in a sizable trade to try to offset his negative value but I could absolutely see him being on the roster for 2 more seasons and if that's the case, utilize his ONE strength vs having him display all his subpar NBA skills, have him and whoever the backup center is work heavily on DHOs. His time as a starter is probably done so figure out how to get some value out of him.

Duncan Robinson is up there as one of the worst NBA contracts ever given out to a player and it was the Miami FO that gave him that contract (didn't even wait to see what other teams may offer him, he was a RFA). Maybe it's a learning experience to not ever again spend a lot of money on a player who has confidence issues. If Robinson had Herro's confidence, maybe Robinson would still be a good player but doesn't. Maybe after hitting rock bottom this season, he just says f it and decides to just do what he did to get paid and if they want to use him great, if not it's on them.
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Re: Heat vs Wizards - 7/4/23 @ 7pm 

Post#116 » by Shewasfly » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:32 pm

AirP. wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:
AirP. wrote:True but he had a couple of seasons he did when he actively looked to almost shoot 3s exclusively. I'd rather that slow footed player just come off screens and jack 3s rather than see him attack the basket. Shooting 3s is the only NBA skill he has.

If you're on the other team, it's a win every single time he attacks the basket, I'd rather him attack the basket than shoot a 3 or have someone else who is more than likely better attacking the hoop.

I agree with your point. I’m just saying he sucks and that has a lot to do with why he’s shooting less 3s. He can’t get them off.

Maybe we forget the screens and just keep him spotted up. Might be better. Can just hope at the very least defenders don’t leave his body and open up lanes for Jimmy drives.

Or, you know, just keep his unplayable ass benched.

If he weren't only on the 2nd of a 5 year 90 million dollar contract I'd agree but the reality of the situation is that he's either a 18-million-dollar unplayable player or you utilize him how you once did and get some value out of that contract to the point where he can be included in a trade.

Here's the situation. In most years Miami will not go into the tax to retain talent to keep building their roster (although the FO has backed the owner into a corner with the tax next summer), so having that ~18 million dollar contract is just a bigger hindrance for Miami to retain talent for the next 2 seasons, then his contract becomes a positive expiring contract. So, to move him before he becomes an expiring contract either his value has to go up by playing and playing well (towards his strengths) or Miami has to trade more assets with him to get rid of him. I think they'll try to use him as filler in a sizable trade to try to offset his negative value but I could absolutely see him being on the roster for 2 more seasons and if that's the case, utilize his ONE strength vs having him display all his subpar NBA skills, have him and whoever the backup center is work heavily on DHOs. His time as a starter is probably done so figure out how to get some value out of him.

Duncan Robinson is up there as one of the worst NBA contracts ever given out to a player and it was the Miami FO that gave him that contract (didn't even wait to see what other teams may offer him, he was a RFA). Maybe it's a learning experience to not ever again spend a lot of money on a player who has confidence issues. If Robinson had Herro's confidence, maybe Robinson would still be a good player but doesn't. Maybe after hitting rock bottom this season, he just says f it and decides to just do what he did to get paid and if they want to use him great, if not it's on them.


I do think they'll continue to try to play him in spots next year, but I don't see it doing much to make us not have to include an asset to offload him. At this point I've accepted that he's the bold/large text and our FO screwed up royally in a way that isn't really reversible.
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