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Re: Heats v. NY Mesquite Rats, 5/2, 7:30PM Round 2, Game 2: SHUTDOWN THE GARDEN! 

Post#801 » by IceColdCubano » Thu May 4, 2023 2:31 pm

Rapaz wrote:The turning point was running into Scott Foster, as I pointed out Tuesday morning, before it spread throughout Heat and Knicks Twitter (nearly verbatim). :lol:

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We put ourselves in a position to make those whistles matter. We missed some key free throws in the third and fourth quarter, that in its self could had won us the game. We played small for way too long, giving them the ability to get 2nd chance points at the end of the game, that in itself lost us the game. Our guards playing Iso ball, and chucking early in the shot clock in the last 5 minutes of the game instead of playing smart like we had been doing the first three quarters, that in itself cost us the game. Multiple decisions made either by our players or coach that put us in a pickle, and even so we the game was there for the taking. I expect Jimmy in this game with the ball in his hands would not have allowed those atrocities to happen like they did at the end of the game.
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Post#802 » by fishfuego. » Thu May 4, 2023 3:03 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:
Rapaz wrote:The turning point was running into Scott Foster, as I pointed out Tuesday morning, before it spread throughout Heat and Knicks Twitter (nearly verbatim). :lol:

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We put ourselves in a position to make those whistles matter. We missed some key free throws in the third and fourth quarter, that in its self could had won us the game. We played small for way too long, giving them the ability to get 2nd chance points at the end of the game, that in itself lost us the game. Our guards playing Iso ball, and chucking early in the shot clock in the last 5 minutes of the game instead of playing smart like we had been doing the first three quarters, that in itself cost us the game. Multiple decisions made either by our players or coach that put us in a pickle, and even so we the game was there for the taking. I expect Jimmy in this game with the ball in his hands would not have allowed those atrocities to happen like they did at the end of the game.


All of that, and yet when it came time to look at a replay showing Bam running over a player way before a shot release, that should’ve had the ball on the sideline instead of a huge 4 point swing, and a foul call against the Heat when it was a Knicks own player push in the back, or Lowry being called for a foul against him when he was actually the victim. All these in the final minutes of a close hard fought game where neither team had a double digit lead prior to these unfortunate foul decisions, and none of these were rectified even with the replay showing the facts. For a team playing with its spare parts, it would be simply asking for the impossible.

I personally blame the league with it referees, not the Heat.

But I agree with you that if Spo plans on overcoming these anomalies, then he better stop with the stupid midget Lineups all the time plus everything you said on top.
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Post#803 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu May 4, 2023 3:51 pm

fishfuego. wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:
Rapaz wrote:The turning point was running into Scott Foster, as I pointed out Tuesday morning, before it spread throughout Heat and Knicks Twitter (nearly verbatim). :lol:

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We put ourselves in a position to make those whistles matter. We missed some key free throws in the third and fourth quarter, that in its self could had won us the game. We played small for way too long, giving them the ability to get 2nd chance points at the end of the game, that in itself lost us the game. Our guards playing Iso ball, and chucking early in the shot clock in the last 5 minutes of the game instead of playing smart like we had been doing the first three quarters, that in itself cost us the game. Multiple decisions made either by our players or coach that put us in a pickle, and even so we the game was there for the taking. I expect Jimmy in this game with the ball in his hands would not have allowed those atrocities to happen like they did at the end of the game.


All of that, and yet when it came time to look at a replay showing Bam running over a player way before a shot release, that should’ve had the ball on the sideline instead of a huge 4 point swing, and a foul call against the Heat when it was a Knicks own player push in the back, or Lowry being called for a foul against him when he was actually the victim. All these in the final minutes of a close hard fought game where neither team had a double digit lead prior to these unfortunate foul decisions, and none of these were rectified even with the replay showing the facts. For a team playing with its spare parts, it would be simply asking for the impossible.

I personally blame the league with it referees, not the Heat.

But I agree with you that if Spo plans on overcoming these anomalies, then he better stop with the stupid midget Lineups all the time plus everything you said on top.


Yea I mean we can talk about bad shot selection, defense, decision making etc. but in the end if we don’t get blatantly shafted by the refs we’re winning this game regardless of whatever else we want to talk about. The style we were playing worked, the league had to step in and take over to try and extend the series best they could. That’s the true anomaly and shouldn’t have been a factor in the game.
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Post#805 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu May 4, 2023 4:06 pm

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Post#806 » by Shewasfly » Thu May 4, 2023 5:00 pm

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Shewasfly wrote:It was sickening watching those calls go against us live. Barely wanted to go to dinner afterward.

The worst part of this loss is not just the refs screwing us, but the confidence we gave their 'stars'. We didn't shut down or at least make it uncomfortable for anybody. I think they will mentally write off their first game performance as a fluke and that confidence is not a good thing for us.

I expect Jimmy to shut down Randle, at least for the time he's on him, but what about RJ Barrett? Even with Tyler out and that scapegoat no longer viable, he still looks like a slow in the face all star against us. And Brunson is so shifty and crafty, we don't really have anyone that matches up well with him from a size and IQ perspective except Jimmy. But he can't guard everybody and also be what we need him to be on offense.

Once again, I think we will have to depend on our shooters shooting to win out.
personally i have no worries the knicks were behind 8 points before the 3 point debacle and were struggling to keep up with a depleted heat team. the refs won that game for them. they needed that extra oomph in order to beat the heat 5/6 points.

a good team takes the opportunity to dominate a hurting team like the heat,the failed to do so because they suck. we know that, their fanbase deep down also knows that. so the only way i could see them beating mia in a series is if the heat gets more depleted or they get more "help" from the refs

series just tied and we have 2 games at home. i like our chances here

Sure, if you know for a fact that Jimmy will be Jimmy 100% for these two games at home. I'm hesitant to make that assumption that he'll just be right back to dropping 30+ and locking down on defense. He sat out for a reason, we have no idea the extent of his ankle issue.

I guess I'm just a little bit more pessimistic with the way this season has gone with injuries and overall bad luck this year. I need to see Jimmy is good before I have any type of confidence lol
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Post#807 » by eddieheatfan » Thu May 4, 2023 6:51 pm

Shewasfly wrote:
eddieheatfan wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:It was sickening watching those calls go against us live. Barely wanted to go to dinner afterward.

The worst part of this loss is not just the refs screwing us, but the confidence we gave their 'stars'. We didn't shut down or at least make it uncomfortable for anybody. I think they will mentally write off their first game performance as a fluke and that confidence is not a good thing for us.

I expect Jimmy to shut down Randle, at least for the time he's on him, but what about RJ Barrett? Even with Tyler out and that scapegoat no longer viable, he still looks like a slow in the face all star against us. And Brunson is so shifty and crafty, we don't really have anyone that matches up well with him from a size and IQ perspective except Jimmy. But he can't guard everybody and also be what we need him to be on offense.

Once again, I think we will have to depend on our shooters shooting to win out.
personally i have no worries the knicks were behind 8 points before the 3 point debacle and were struggling to keep up with a depleted heat team. the refs won that game for them. they needed that extra oomph in order to beat the heat 5/6 points.

a good team takes the opportunity to dominate a hurting team like the heat,the failed to do so because they suck. we know that, their fanbase deep down also knows that. so the only way i could see them beating mia in a series is if the heat gets more depleted or they get more "help" from the refs

series just tied and we have 2 games at home. i like our chances here

Sure, if you know for a fact that Jimmy will be Jimmy 100% for these two games at home. I'm hesitant to make that assumption that he'll just be right back to dropping 30+ and locking down on defense. He sat out for a reason, we have no idea the extent of his ankle issue.

I guess I'm just a little bit more pessimistic with the way this season has gone with injuries and overall bad luck this year. I need to see Jimmy is good before I have any type of confidence lol
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Post#808 » by Bishop45 » Fri May 5, 2023 1:16 pm

Where's new OP?
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Post#809 » by insfo » Fri May 5, 2023 4:01 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Where's new OP?


I was just wondering if we should tag team this thing, but hoping someone who puts in the effort like Gom does it.
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Post#810 » by SA37 » Fri May 5, 2023 4:50 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:Where's new OP?


I was just wondering if we should tag team this thing, but hoping someone who puts in the effort like Gom does it.


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Post#811 » by goodboys lats » Fri May 5, 2023 5:29 pm

insfo wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Where's new OP?


I was just wondering if we should tag team this thing, but hoping someone who puts in the effort like Gom does it.


I say F the rules. Bish should be playoff OP until there's no tread left in the tires and we need to try something drastic.
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Post#812 » by fishfuego. » Fri May 5, 2023 6:07 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
fishfuego. wrote:
IceColdCubano wrote:We put ourselves in a position to make those whistles matter. We missed some key free throws in the third and fourth quarter, that in its self could had won us the game. We played small for way too long, giving them the ability to get 2nd chance points at the end of the game, that in itself lost us the game. Our guards playing Iso ball, and chucking early in the shot clock in the last 5 minutes of the game instead of playing smart like we had been doing the first three quarters, that in itself cost us the game. Multiple decisions made either by our players or coach that put us in a pickle, and even so we the game was there for the taking. I expect Jimmy in this game with the ball in his hands would not have allowed those atrocities to happen like they did at the end of the game.


All of that, and yet when it came time to look at a replay showing Bam running over a player way before a shot release, that should’ve had the ball on the sideline instead of a huge 4 point swing, and a foul call against the Heat when it was a Knicks own player push in the back, or Lowry being called for a foul against him when he was actually the victim. All these in the final minutes of a close hard fought game where neither team had a double digit lead prior to these unfortunate foul decisions, and none of these were rectified even with the replay showing the facts. For a team playing with its spare parts, it would be simply asking for the impossible.

I personally blame the league with it referees, not the Heat.

But I agree with you that if Spo plans on overcoming these anomalies, then he better stop with the stupid midget Lineups all the time plus everything you said on top.


Yea I mean we can talk about bad shot selection, defense, decision making etc. but in the end if we don’t get blatantly shafted by the refs we’re winning this game regardless of whatever else we want to talk about. The style we were playing worked, the league had to step in and take over to try and extend the series best they could. That’s the true anomaly and shouldn’t have been a factor in the game.


All I can say is here we are once again. We haven’t learned a thing about this league. We keep stumbling on the same rock, time and time again.

WWF at least presents us with a make believe product that we’ve come to know as scripted fake. The NBA tries to bullchit us with a partial real product. I say partial because somethings are real, like the players talent and competitive skills, but the end result isn’t always real, it’s manipulated by a set of unspoken techniques that unfortunately includes their number one enforcers, their referees. Often it takes a small dose of manipulation to accomplish the task, but then there are those times when a full blown in your face dose of manipulation is required and everything gets exposed, but of course they simply hide obvious explanations, or just simply look you in the eyes and with a straight face say there is nothing to see here.

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Post#813 » by Wiltside » Fri May 5, 2023 9:52 pm

Are we all in agreeance that despite the L, BishOP needs to keep this train running?
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Post#814 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri May 5, 2023 10:36 pm

Wiltside wrote:Are we all in agreeance that despite the L, BishOP needs to keep this train running?


Yes
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Post#815 » by 3ballbomber » Sat May 6, 2023 1:26 am

Wiltside wrote:Are we all in agreeance that despite the L, BishOP needs to keep this train running?


Bish or Gom. either one is good w/ me just get that thread up. It's time!
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