Heat at Grizz 3/15/25 @ 8 PM EST

[Heat_Down_Under]

Man I swear if spurs luck into the top pick…….

Lol LUCK into

Well clearly they don’t have the worst record.. they sat out wemby for the season and fox is out for season.. if they get cooper you think that’s not luck?

[Bishop45]

Missed game, looked like one hell of a smoker, grief

[SerialChiller]

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[Bishop45]

Got our booties whistled in, but looks like Kel'el had a decent game?

[eddieheatfan]

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[twix2500]

After the game was out of reach Ware finally started to shoot threes. Ware was 2 for 6 from the three point line. In order for the offensive SYSTEM to be good Bam and Ware must shoot threes specifically the corners.

[3ballbomber]

[VaDe255]

At this point I have so little faith in this FO, where them finishing in the lottery and lucking into a high draft pick is probably the only way they will be competive any time soon.

[eddieheatfan]

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[DayofMourning]

At this point I have so little faith in this FO, where them finishing in the lottery and lucking into a high draft pick is probably the only way they will be competive any time soon.

Its the way the league works these days.

Im with them on the hesitancy to pay retirement age players BIG money.

They are forced to draft. They are forced to follow my lead and draft their next superstar.

[contract]

Man I swear if spurs luck into the top pick…….

Lol LUCK into

Well clearly they don’t have the worst record.. they sat out wemby for the season and fox is out for season.. if they get cooper you think that’s not luck?

He may be implying that the NBA rigs the lottery.

[contract]

At this point I have so little faith in this FO, where them finishing in the lottery and lucking into a high draft pick is probably the only way they will be competive any time soon.

Be happy with this front office while we have it because there's no guarantee that the next one will be better or as good or even competent. The Arisons made a great hire when they brought in Pat Riley, but there's no way of knowing if that was a smart decision or just stupid luck. There's no way of knowing if they hired the best qualified guy or just the shiniest option available, because Pat was both.

The shiniest option may not be the right one next time.

[eddieheatfan]

At this point I have so little faith in this FO, where them finishing in the lottery and lucking into a high draft pick is probably the only way they will be competive any time soon.

Be happy with this front office while we have it because there's no guarantee that the next one will be better or as good or even competent. The Arisons made a great hire when they brought in Pat Riley, but there's no way of knowing if that was a smart decision or just stupid luck. There's no way of knowing if they hired the best qualified guy or just the shiniest option available, because Pat was both.

The shiniest option may not be the right one next time.

[VaDe255]

At this point I have so little faith in this FO, where them finishing in the lottery and lucking into a high draft pick is probably the only way they will be competive any time soon.

Be happy with this front office while we have it because there's no guarantee that the next one will be better or as good or even competent. The Arisons made a great hire when they brought in Pat Riley, but there's no way of knowing if that was a smart decision or just stupid luck. There's no way of knowing if they hired the best qualified guy or just the shiniest option available, because Pat was both.

The shiniest option may not be the right one next time.

The Terry trade and the way the Jimmy situation was handled were absolute missteps by the front office. It’s hard to "be happy" with them when recent decisions have clearly set the team back. Blind faith in continuity doesn’t mean much if the FO isn’t actively making the right moves. The enjoyment starts when they start making good decisions again; until then, skepticism is more than justified

[contract]

At this point I have so little faith in this FO, where them finishing in the lottery and lucking into a high draft pick is probably the only way they will be competive any time soon.

Be happy with this front office while we have it because there's no guarantee that the next one will be better or as good or even competent. The Arisons made a great hire when they brought in Pat Riley, but there's no way of knowing if that was a smart decision or just stupid luck. There's no way of knowing if they hired the best qualified guy or just the shiniest option available, because Pat was both.

The shiniest option may not be the right one next time.

The Terry trade and the way the Jimmy situation was handled were absolute missteps by the front office. It’s hard to "be happy" with them when recent decisions have clearly set the team back. Blind faith in continuity doesn’t mean much if the FO isn’t actively making the right moves. The enjoyment starts when they start making good decisions again; until then, skepticism is more than justified

Even the most competent will **** the bed sometimes. I'm certainly not happy with every decision our front office makes. In fact I probably dislike more of them than I like. However you can't dismiss the success. We have made it to the conference finals three times in the past 5 years, with two of those resulting in trips to the NBA Finals. Few teams have done better.

[contract]

At this point I have so little faith in this FO, where them finishing in the lottery and lucking into a high draft pick is probably the only way they will be competive any time soon.

Be happy with this front office while we have it because there's no guarantee that the next one will be better or as good or even competent. The Arisons made a great hire when they brought in Pat Riley, but there's no way of knowing if that was a smart decision or just stupid luck. There's no way of knowing if they hired the best qualified guy or just the shiniest option available, because Pat was both.

The shiniest option may not be the right one next time.

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What are you talking about? That's about as positive as I ever get.

[twix2500]

At this point I have so little faith in this FO, where them finishing in the lottery and lucking into a high draft pick is probably the only way they will be competive any time soon.

Be happy with this front office while we have it because there's no guarantee that the next one will be better or as good or even competent. The Arisons made a great hire when they brought in Pat Riley, but there's no way of knowing if that was a smart decision or just stupid luck. There's no way of knowing if they hired the best qualified guy or just the shiniest option available, because Pat was both.

The shiniest option may not be the right one next time.

The Terry trade and the way the Jimmy situation was handled were absolute missteps by the front office. It’s hard to "be happy" with them when recent decisions have clearly set the team back. Blind faith in continuity doesn’t mean much if the FO isn’t actively making the right moves. The enjoyment starts when they start making good decisions again; until then, skepticism is more than justified

I don't believe the Butler situation was a misstep at all. I assuming that you feel it would of been a good PR move to trade Jimmy without talking to him? You don't think many would be bashing the Heat. Look at the Mavs. You was not gonna get a haul for Butler. Most teams would not want to resign Butler at that price and that was the problem with trading him. Look at Clippers with Paul look at the Mavs with Luka. The NBA as a whole is trying to reduce salaries

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[VaDe255]

Be happy with this front office while we have it because there's no guarantee that the next one will be better or as good or even competent. The Arisons made a great hire when they brought in Pat Riley, but there's no way of knowing if that was a smart decision or just stupid luck. There's no way of knowing if they hired the best qualified guy or just the shiniest option available, because Pat was both.

The shiniest option may not be the right one next time.

The Terry trade and the way the Jimmy situation was handled were absolute missteps by the front office. It’s hard to "be happy" with them when recent decisions have clearly set the team back. Blind faith in continuity doesn’t mean much if the FO isn’t actively making the right moves. The enjoyment starts when they start making good decisions again; until then, skepticism is more than justified

I don't believe the Butler situation was a misstep at all. I assuming that you feel it would of been a good PR move to trade Jimmy without talking to him? You don't think many would be bashing the Heat. Look at the Mavs. You was not gonna get a haul for Butler. Most teams would not want to resign Butler at that price and that was the problem with trading him. Look at Clippers with Paul look at the Mavs with Luka. The NBA as a whole is trying to reduce salaries

The Butler situation was absolutely a misstep because the FO mismanaged his value and let the situation deteriorate. Instead of being proactive, whether by extending him on terms he would have accepted or exploring trades when his value was higher, they let things spiral. The 76ers were looking for a wing and had expirings plus picks on offer, it's clear that trade options existed.

What makes it worse is that they should have known how Butler operates. His behavioral patterns have been consistent throughout his career. When he feels undervalued or disrespected in contract talks, tension builds, and things eventually implode. We saw it in Chicago, Minnesota, and Philadelphia. They had the chance to get ahead of this and avoid the drama.

I wouldn’t have necessarily had the foresight to predict exactly how this would play out. But that’s the difference, good asset management should be expected from a FO. They’re paid to know their players and make these high-stakes decisions, so they should be held to a high standard.

Instead, they kept escalating the situation with suspensions and public tension, further driving down his value and making a trade even harder to navigate. By the time they finally moved him, the return was underwhelming. Had they handled things better, they could have secured a stronger package or reshaped the roster in a more meaningful way while avoiding all the drama. They backed themselves into a corner and had to settle; this was a clear failure in asset management.

[twix2500]

The Terry trade and the way the Jimmy situation was handled were absolute missteps by the front office. It’s hard to "be happy" with them when recent decisions have clearly set the team back. Blind faith in continuity doesn’t mean much if the FO isn’t actively making the right moves. The enjoyment starts when they start making good decisions again; until then, skepticism is more than justified

I don't believe the Butler situation was a misstep at all. I assuming that you feel it would of been a good PR move to trade Jimmy without talking to him? You don't think many would be bashing the Heat. Look at the Mavs. You was not gonna get a haul for Butler. Most teams would not want to resign Butler at that price and that was the problem with trading him. Look at Clippers with Paul look at the Mavs with Luka. The NBA as a whole is trying to reduce salaries

The Butler situation was absolutely a misstep because the FO mismanaged his value and let the situation deteriorate. Instead of being proactive, whether by extending him on terms he would have accepted or exploring trades when his value was higher, they let things spiral. The 76ers were looking for a wing and had expirings plus picks on offer, it's clear that trade options existed.

What makes it worse is that they should have known how Butler operates. His behavioral patterns have been consistent throughout his career. When he feels undervalued or disrespected in contract talks, tension builds, and things eventually implode. We saw it in Chicago, Minnesota, and Philadelphia. They had the chance to get ahead of this and avoid the drama.

I wouldn’t have necessarily had the foresight to predict exactly how this would play out. But that’s the difference, good asset management should be expected from a FO. They’re paid to know their players and make these high-stakes decisions, so they should be held to a high standard.

Instead, they kept escalating the situation with suspensions and public tension, further driving down his value and making a trade even harder to navigate. By the time they finally moved him, the return was underwhelming. Had they handled things better, they could have secured a stronger package or reshaped the roster in a more meaningful way while avoiding all the drama. They backed themselves into a corner and had to settle; this was a clear failure in asset management.

Giving Jimmy max extension would have been mismanagement too most on here and you would been crying about it also and saying how bad of a decision that would of been (exactly what you are saying now). There is no good PR trade for trading your historically great star.

The ONLY way the Heat may be get a decent return for BUTLER is to trade him in the middle of the night with out talking to him about it like the Mavs did Luka. As an organizational policy, the Heat doesnt back door players, they are upfront with players and usually talk to them about where they want to go. They did that with Butler. Butler is the one who chose to make this more than it was, because HE did not want to negotiate at all about his contract. Butler was all about give me exactly what I want or I am gonna make an unprofessional scene.

[VaDe255]

I don't believe the Butler situation was a misstep at all. I assuming that you feel it would of been a good PR move to trade Jimmy without talking to him? You don't think many would be bashing the Heat. Look at the Mavs. You was not gonna get a haul for Butler. Most teams would not want to resign Butler at that price and that was the problem with trading him. Look at Clippers with Paul look at the Mavs with Luka. The NBA as a whole is trying to reduce salaries

The Butler situation was absolutely a misstep because the FO mismanaged his value and let the situation deteriorate. Instead of being proactive, whether by extending him on terms he would have accepted or exploring trades when his value was higher, they let things spiral. The 76ers were looking for a wing and had expirings plus picks on offer, it's clear that trade options existed.

What makes it worse is that they should have known how Butler operates. His behavioral patterns have been consistent throughout his career. When he feels undervalued or disrespected in contract talks, tension builds, and things eventually implode. We saw it in Chicago, Minnesota, and Philadelphia. They had the chance to get ahead of this and avoid the drama.

I wouldn’t have necessarily had the foresight to predict exactly how this would play out. But that’s the difference, good asset management should be expected from a FO. They’re paid to know their players and make these high-stakes decisions, so they should be held to a high standard.

Instead, they kept escalating the situation with suspensions and public tension, further driving down his value and making a trade even harder to navigate. By the time they finally moved him, the return was underwhelming. Had they handled things better, they could have secured a stronger package or reshaped the roster in a more meaningful way while avoiding all the drama. They backed themselves into a corner and had to settle; this was a clear failure in asset management.

Giving Jimmy max extension would have been mismanagement too most on here and you would been crying about it also and saying how bad of a decision that would of been (exactly what you are saying now). There is no good PR trade for trading your historically great star.

The ONLY way the Heat may be get a decent return for BUTLER is to trade him in the middle of the night with out talking to him about it like the Mavs did Luka. As an organizational policy, the Heat doesnt back door players, they are upfront with players and usually talk to them about where they want to go. They did that with Butler. Butler is the one who chose to make this more than it was, because HE did not want to negotiate at all about his contract. Butler was all about give me exactly what I want or I am gonna make an unprofessional scene.

To be clear, I was against giving him a max extension; I didn’t want them to overpay and lock themselves into a bad contract. But because they weren’t going to extend him, they absolutely had to find a trade before things spiraled out of control. Instead, they let tension build and then made it worse by escalating with suspensions. That directly contributed to his trade value dropping and put them in a position where they had to settle for an underwhelming return.

I understand that this is easier to see in hindsight, and it’s fair to acknowledge that these situations are complex. But at the same time, I’m holding this FO to a high standard, as they should be. This isn’t about blind hate, it’s about expecting better and applying criticism when it’s due. From my point of view the FO failed in its handling of Butler, they should have done better.

They have another crucial decision to make with Herro this offseason, along with several other key moves related to roster construction. These will be critical for the team's future. They cannot afford to make similar mistakes. If they mishandle these decisions the way they did with Butler, they risk locking themselves into mediocrity with no clear path forward.